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File Transfers to SHAKSPER
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 2, No. 60. Wednesday, 20 Feb 1991.
 
(1)   Date:   Tue, 19 Feb 91 20:40:00 EST                    (27 lines)
      From:   "J. JEFFERSON CARTER" <CARTERJJ@whitman>
      Subject: Re: SHK 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfers
 
(2)   Date:   Wed, 20 Feb 91 05:47:45 EST                    (48 lines)
      From:   BRAITH@FRPERP51
      Subject: RE:       SHK 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfer
 
(3)   Date:         Wed, 20 Feb 91 16:12:05 EST              (29 lines)
      From:         Ken Steele <
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      Subject:      Files for SHAKSPER
 
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Date:   Tue, 19 Feb 91 20:40:00 EST
From:   "J. JEFFERSON CARTER" <CARTERJJ@whitman>
Subject: 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfers
Comment: Re: SHK 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfers
 
        What will probably be easier for a WordPerfect conversion is
simply to "print to file" the file you need to convert.  That will
generate a simple ASCII text file that is almost identical to your
document on screen, minus any italics, underline, etc. that you may
have.
        Although it's easier to do this under Microsoft Word, I know that
WordPerfect can do it, too.
        Basically, after you get that file, just upload it to your mainframe
via the normal procedure for your machine-- Kermit, Z-modem, what have you.
Hope this helps!
 
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                             J. Jefferson Carter
                     Associate Editor -- Encore Magazine
                             Harper Joy Theatre
                               Whitman College
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Date:   Wed, 20 Feb 91 05:47:45 EST
From:   BRAITH@FRPERP51
Subject: 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfers
Comment: RE:       SHK 2.0058  SAA Abstract; WP-to-Mainframe File Transfers
 
We do a lot of WP transfers here.
We have a protocol called PUTFILE/BIN which I think is used universally and
which should conserve the formatting.
 
My students use the ASCII save utility in WordPerfect, after having coded the
printer codes with REPLACE.
Any code system works - we have found that the easiest to remember consists of
putting the initial letter of the code five times instead of the code it
represents  BBBBB for BOLD  CCCCC for Center etc etc.
 
Obviously this is only good for a very simple text, and the font choice, page
formatting, text boxes and such like are not included.
 
What is more, since only the beginning of the command is REPLACEd either you
need a series of Macros at the receiving end, or a lot of patience, in order to
re-establish the text in its original form.
 
In fact, since we all tend to have different ideas on how we format long texts,
I like to put two columns in landscape on an A4 sheet in Times Roman 8 point,
for instance - the ASCII converted texts are quite sufficient.
 
If it is of any use, I have found that the hyphenation zone utility, with the
possibility of creating Soft Returns in the H-zone [option 3] gives the
greatest flexibility.
 
This added to a minimum of presentation codes such as TAB or INSERT transferred
by a simple system such as I describe above - TTTTT - IIIII etc is sufficient.
 
A typical centering macro would look like this:
 
Macro name:   CC
 
Search CCCCC - Block on - E.O.L. - F12 (or the appropriate key...)
 
we have evolved other codes for things like bolding which take care of single
word bolding and line bolding. If the transfers are more complex, go straight
for a DUMP system which will transfer intact.
 
Hope all this is of some use.
 
Keith Braithwaite
University of Perpignan
France
 
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Date:         Wed, 20 Feb 91 16:12:05 EST
From:         Ken Steele <
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Subject:      Files for SHAKSPER
 
I didn't realize I'd opened such a can of worms in terms of WordPerfect's
translation capabilities.  There are indeed ways to transmit files
with WordPerfect formatting codes intact across Bitnet, and in fact
executable files can also be transmitted, using variations of UUENCODE
and Binary file transfers.
 
For the purposes of SHAKSPER, however, I don't believe that we really
want to preserve the WordPerfect file format.  Members use a wide
variety of wordprocessing software on a wide variety of hardware
platforms, I'm sure, and posting files on the SHAKSPER Fileserver in
a range of formats would lead to chaos ("that way madness lies...").
The universal alternative is some form of text encoding, following the
model of the Text Encoding Initiative recommendations.
 
But if my work habits are typical, many of us would rather read files on
our mainframe accounts than download them, convert them, and print them.
Files littered with TEI codes are as frustrating as files marked up for
TEX.  Simplicity and universality thus come together in simple ASCII.
Perhaps the easiest way to treat WP files would be to convert footnotes to
endnotes, and print to disk.  If one has time, inserting markers for
italicization/underscore and endnote location would definitely also be
valuable.  Is it safe to suggest this as a bare minimum?
 
                                              Ken Steele
                                              University of Toronto
 

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