Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 3, No. 44. Wednesday, 4 Mar 1992.
[Ed. Note: My apologies for the unplanned hiatus in SHAKSPER mailings:
my TELNET account at McMaster unexpectedly expired on March 1,
and I am still attempting to re-establish my network connection.
Hopefully things will shortly return to normal; in the
meantime, I will edit the list whenever I can access an
on-campus terminal in Toronto. -- k.s.]
(1) From: rabrams@portland.bitnet
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1992 18:44:03 -0500
Subj: ["Gentle Peace"]
(2) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 22:16:21 EST
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Subj: Re: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
(3) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 1992 02:22:00 -0500
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Subj: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
(4) Date: Sat, 29 Feb 1992 22:12:46 EST
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(Hardy M. Cook)
Subj: R: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"
(5) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 05:53:00 -0500
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Subj: Re: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
(6) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 92 12:00:21 EST
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(7) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 09:50:22 -0500
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(Thomas G. Bishop)
Subj: "gentle peace"
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From: rabrams%portland.bitnet@utcs
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1992 18:44:03 -0500
Subject: ["Gentle Peace"]
This is only a guess, but the rhythms remind me of "that eternity prom-
ised by our everliving poet."
rick abrams
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 22:16:21 EST
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Subject: 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Comment: Re: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Henry VIII II, ii, 445 (Riverside): "Still in thy right hand
carry gentle peace / To silence envious tongues"
Antonia Forster
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Date: Sat, 29 Feb 1992 02:22:00 -0500
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Subject: Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Comment: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
The reference is obviously to *Henry VIII* III.2.445 (Riverside).
Still in thy right hand carry gentle peace
To silence envious tongues.
Balz Engler, Basel University
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Date: Sat, 29 Feb 1992 22:12:46 EST
From:
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(Hardy M. Cook)
Subject: R: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"
I consulted the Riverside on WordCruncher to see if I could find the
allusion from a Beckett story, " . . . his right hand, innocent of
any more mercantile commodity than that 'gentle peace' recommended
by the immortal Shakespeare," that Steve Urkowitz asked about. What
I found was that the allusion is to Wolsey's "naked to mine enemies"
speech from *Henry VIII.*
Here is the complete speech:
<Wol.> Cromwell, I did not think to shed a tear
In all my miseries; but thou hast forc'd me
(Out of thy honest truth) to play the woman.
Let's dry our eyes; and thus far hear me, Cromwell,
And when I am forgotten, as I shall be,
And sleep in dull cold marble where no mention
Of me more must be heard of, say I taught thee;
Say Wolsey, that once trod the ways of glory,
And sounded all the depths and shoals of honor,
Found thee a way, out of his wrack, to rise in;
A sure and safe one, though thy master miss'd it.
Mark but my fall, and that that ruin'd me:
Cromwell, I charge thee, fling away ambition!
By that sin fell the angels; how can man then
(The image of his Maker) hope to win by it?
Love thyself last, cherish those hearts that hate thee;
Corruption wins not more than honesty.
Still in thy right hand carry gentle peace
To silence envious tongues. Be just, and fear not;
Let all the ends thou aim'st at be thy country's,
Thy God's, and truth's; then if thou fall'st, O Cromwell,
Thou fall'st a blessed martyr!
Serve the King, and -- prithee lead me in.
There take an inventory of all I have,
To the last penny, 'tis the King's. My robe,
And my integrity to heaven, is all
I dare now call mine own. O Cromwell, Cromwell,
Had I but serv'd my God with half the zeal
I serv'd my king, He would not in mine age
Have left me naked to mine enemies.
(Life King Henry VIII III-II:428-457)
Hardy M. Cook
Bowie State University
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 05:53:00 -0500
From: ELI16@FRMOP22.BITNET
Subject: 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Comment: Re: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
REPLY TO STEVE URKOWITZ ON 'GENTLE PEACE', FROM LUC BOROT:
Perhaps it may be an alteration from Portia's "gentle rain from
heaven" (i.e. mercy) in Merchant of Venice?
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 92 12:00:21 EST
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Subject: 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Comment: Re: SHK 3.0042 Q: Beckett & Shakespeare's "Gentle Peace"?
Two sources might be considered. 1) King John 2.1.586: Bastard: "From a
resolv'd and honorable war / To a most base and vile-concluded peace. /
And why rail I on this commodity? 2) Henry 8 3.2.435: Wolsey: Still in thy
right hand carry gentle peace / To silence envious tongues. Be just, and fear
not; (etc)
Perhaps this is a displaced memory from Beckett. There is only one use of the
couplet "gentle peace" in Sh. that I can see. Cheers. NR.
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 09:50:22 -0500
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(Thomas G. Bishop)
Subject: "gentle peace"
As I have deleted the message with this query on it directly I must reply
in general. The allusion in question is probably to Burgundy's speech in
Act 5 of Henry V (line 65 of scene 2).
I happened to be showing Branagh's film to my class MOnday night, after
the query on SHAKSPER. Lo and behold there it was. These things happen. What
particular game old Samuel B was playing with it I know not. Perhaps the
questioner could supply us with the name of the story, so we can check for
ourselves.
All the best,
Tom Bishop
--
Tom Bishop "When I was at home I was in a better place,
Dept of English but travellers must be content."
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland, OH 44106. (
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