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Rs: SHAKSPER's Uses
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 4, No. 309.  Friday, 21 May 1993.
 
(1)     From:   Robert R. Burke <BURKE@RCKHRST1.bitnet>
        Date:   Wednesday, 19 May 1993 22:23:36 -0500 (CDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
(2)     From:   Steve Urkowitz <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 May 93 22:53:42 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
(3)     From:   Vint Cerf <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 May 93 10:34 GMT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
(4)     From:   Balz Engler <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 May 1993 13:00:35 +0200
        Subj:   SHK 4.0308 Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
(5)     From:   Ed Pechter <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 May 1993 08:59 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
(6)     From:   Nick Clary <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 May 1993 09:19:07 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
 
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From:           Robert R. Burke <BURKE@RCKHRST1.bitnet>
Date:           Wednesday, 19 May 1993 22:23:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
Thank you for sending on the Roy Flannagan mention of Shaksper.  I am glad it
stimulated your queries.  As a fairly recent member of Shaksper, I am only
learning the number of ways it can be of very valuable help.  I have been
particularly interested in the reactions of people to various performances.  As
you may have noticed from my own query about the friar in Branagh's 'Much Ado',
I have seen the possibility of asking for help on a research project I am
involved in.  Also, when I find a review that I find particularly insightful, I
print it out and put it in my file.  If, through your good efforts, we can talk
informally with others interested in the field, then you are rendering a great
service, for which I am grateful
 
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From:           Steve Urkowitz <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 May 93 22:53:42 EDT
Subject: 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
How do you use SHAKSPER? he asks . . . Hmmm.  Like, "how do you use a mailbox?"
Sometimes for getting mail, sometimes for sending mail, sometimes for hiding
things in, sometimes for holding flowers, and sometimes as a target for
frustrations.  Sometimes as a comforting symbol that I'm not alone in the
dialogue of blessings that come from reading and talking about these plays.
 
For a while SHAKSPER was a major place for me to dance with language, joking
across the keyboard.  Then a few sneering remarks, particularly one from Antony
Hammond ("Sir Oracle" around the house, editor of a peculiarly pugnacious RIII
edition at the office, I guess) soured the enterprise for a while.  And so many
grumpy reactions to Brannaugh's ADO . . . whew! I found that movie immensely
generous, good willed, beautiful, and I've been wincing at all the lacerating
remarks in reviews and SHAKSPER comments . . . Years ago I first read Loves
Labors Lost in a class with William Ringler at Chicago.  He talked a little
about the play first, and then he said, "there's one line in this play that is
the most important.  Can you guess which?"  Maybe the reason I had the
confidence (or nerve) to go at Shakespeare professionally was that I guessed
right, for Ringler, Holofernes response to the baiting, "This is not generous,
not gentle, not humble."
 
But it's the end of the semester, back into play, splash waterdrops even more
vigorously than they get splashed at us, romp in the exuberance of our chosen
art.  Hardy Cook asks what would you like to see.  In planning for next
semester, what are people's comments about the editions they have been using?
Has anyone else seen the Cambridge School Shakespeare texts from the editors of
the British SHAKESPEARE AND SCHOOLS journal? I'm fascinated by the suggestions
for games and improvisations and practical exercises it offers, and I want to
assign it for my graduate students so they will see how experienced
master-teachers can animate the experience of studying these texts.  I'd like
to hear about any collection of essays that other instructors prepare for
students.  What texts, background readings, other materials do people put on
reserve in libraries or duplicate for classes?  Does anyone else know Michael
Long, THE UNNATURAL SCENE, a text now out of print that I hand out chapters of
to anyone who will fight through his muscular prose?
 
It's late.  I've eaten very well.  I wish you all joy, especially Antony
Hammond, since good digestion delights even more when the whole company is
happy. Thank you, Hardy, for spreading this various table for us out here in
the forest.
 
As ever,
Steve Holofernowitz
SURCC@CUNYVM
 
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Date:           Thursday, 20 May 93 10:34 GMT
Subject: 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
SHAKSPERians,
 
If you respond to the request to describe how you make use of SHAKSPER, I would
like to request that the assembled results be made available for publication,
possibly in edited form, by the Internet Society. As President of that
organization, I am always looking for opportunities to educate people about the
wide range of applications of computer and communication technology. It's
especially important to teach the technocrats that there is more to this than
the technology and that people with other than technical interests are making
very effective use of computer and communication-based tools.
 
Many thanks for this consideration.
 
Vint Cerf
 
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From:           Balz Engler <
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Date:           Thursday, 20 May 1993 13:00:35 +0200
Subject: Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        SHK 4.0308 Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
Dear Hardy,
 
Here are some brief answers:
 
How do you use SHAKSPER? I regularly read what I find in my mailbox. I
occasionally place a query in it--response is sometimes impressive,
sometimes the silence is intriguing.
 
What does SHAKSPER play in your life? For one thing, I am spared the
disappointment of finding my mailbox empty. Occasionally (emphasis:
occasionally) I find something that is of professional interest to me.
 
What roles do you foresee ...? I find SHAKSPER a well-managed conference.
I should like to see more debate on central issues of Shakespeare
studies, instead of reviews of minor productions. I should like a larger
number of Shakespeare specialists included. Perhaps I have not yet got
the feeling that SHAKSPER has been able to do what electronic conferences
after all should be able to do best: Offer the latest in thinking about
a topic.
 
Doing well ... could be done better ... etc. Avoid chat, promote spirited
conversation. For the rest, a conference will always be as good as its
participants. Also: Make sure that the messages are of interest for, say,
at least twenty percent of the subscribers. Otherwise, encourage private
communication.
 
Having said all this, I think you should be congratulated on doing a
very good job. Don't do more.
 
Best, Balz.
Balz Engler
University of Basel, Switzerland
 
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Date:           Thursday, 20 May 1993 08:59 EST
Subject: 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
Dear Hardy,
 
I'm sure you'll get a lot of interesting answers to your questions about
the uses of the conference.  They'll confirm what I'm sure we all already
know (if we think about it):  that SHAKSPER plays a significant part--many
significant parts--in our professional lives.
 
I sometimes wonder what it costs you in time & energy to keep SHAKSPER
going.  It seems to me that your efforts should be compensated.  Give me
the name & address of the purse string holder at Bowie State, & I'll
write a letter expressing my appreciation of and dependence upon your
work.
 
You may construe this as a personal response, but I'd just as soon you
distribute it, along with the information I requested about the money
person at Bowie State, so that other members can do what they want.
 
All best wishes,
 
Ed
 
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Date:           Thursday, 20 May 1993 09:19:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
Comment:        Re: SHK 4.0308  Editor's Query: SHAKSPER's Uses
 
Dear Hardy,
 
SHAKSPER is a wonderful way to begin the day.  Although I do not actively join
every conversation, I enjoy following their progresses.  My undergraduate
students often read the daily postings and some have raised questions or
contributed observations.  I also post printed copies of various items on
a small bulletin board outside my office door.  In fact, it is a rare day that
waiting students and passers-by will not find an interesting question,
an animated exchange, or a review pinned to this board.
 
Next semester I will ask students to locate a conversation of particular
interest to them (nudging it along if the contributors have too quickly agreed
to disagree or have failed to attend to one another's points) and have them
prepare a brief summary and analysis of this sample discourse for other
members of the class.  At the end of the semester, I will invite them to
comment on the value of this medium (and exercise) as a component of the
course.
 
By the way, it is difficult for me to believe that you can supervise the
Bulletin Board by setting aside only an hour a day.  Keep up the fine work.
 
Nick Clary
New address: 
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