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Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 4, No. 586.  Saturday, 25 Sept. 1993.
 
(1)     From:   Bill Denning <
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        Date:   Friday, 24 Sep 1993 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: Shakespeare and Politics (The Discussion Continues)
 
(2)     From:   Ellen Edgerton <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN>
        Date:   Friday, 24 Sep 1993 14:48 ET
        Subj:   Terms of discourse on SHAKSPER
 
 
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From:           Bill Denning <
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Date:           Friday, 24 Sep 1993 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:        Re: Shakespeare and Politics (The Discussion Continues)
 
Hardy Cook writes:
 
>>The emerging consensus seems to be that my intervention into the recent
>>discussions involving Shakespeare, Politics, The Globe, and Wanamaker was
>>uncalled for.  My attempt was not in any manner related to the subjects under
>>discussion, and I took the step with great trepidation. I was concerned,
>>rather, with the tone of many of the comments.  I will, of course, continue to
>>circulate digests of submissions related to these issues and hope that my
>>intervention will not become a topic itself and that the subjects of the
>>discourse will be the issue, not the discourse itself.
 
Personally I am neutral as to whether or not this particular discussion
continues.  Some of the commentary has been very insightful and informative,
and some of it hasn't.
 
I would like to point out that all electronic distribution lists are "owned",
i.e. managed by one or more individuals who put a great deal of time & effort
into this task.  In the case of SHAKSPER, it's Hardy Cook.
 
I doubt very much that he is paid for this, but rather is doing it on a
voluntary basis so that all of us can enjoy exchanging our views & ideas.
 
Occasionally guiding the discussion is part of the manager's job.  I have no
problem with the concept of limiting discussion when _in the opinion of the
list manager_ it becomes necessary.
 
Some of the members of this list work on VAX/VMS systems, and may participate
in VAX NOTES discussions that are similar to this one.  The technology is
different, but the idea is the same.
 
All VAX NOTES conferences have one or more moderators, who on occasion may set
certain notes "hidden", i.e. non-readable, and on occasion may set an entire
topic or conference "nowrite", when it becomes approriate to terminate
discussion.
 
Dennis Kennedy writes:
 
>>If what some subscribers say is offensive to others, isn't that the point of
>>conferring?  To discover where we draw the line?
 
I would encourage all correspondents to exercise restraint in their choice of
wording.  As to expressing any particular point of view, I think that diverse
ideas encourage healthy, constructive discussion.
 
Best regards, Bill
 
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From:           Ellen Edgerton <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN>
Date:           Friday, 24 Sep 1993 14:48 ET
Subject:        Terms of discourse on SHAKSPER
 
While I don't condemn anyone for any line of conversation, and I
have no opinion on Hardy Cook's intervention, I would like to
point out that the subject lines of each mailing from SHAKSPER
very clearly contain what the discussion is about.  Therefore,
those of us who are "pretentious" enough to care about the
"relevant" topic of Shakespeare and politics ought to be able to
engage in conversation without annoying people, and those of us who
are "shallow" enough to care about the "interesting" topic of
Kenneth Branagh's *Much Ado* ought to be able to do the same.
 
Translation:  There is such a thing as a "delete" key.  It won't
kill you to use it once in a while.
 
 
Ellen Edgerton
Syracuse University

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