Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 5, No. 0501. Sunday, 6 June 1994.
(1) From: David Joseph Kathman <
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Date: Saturday, 4 Jun 94 17:46:11 CDT
Subj: Hollywood Bard
(2) From: William Godshalk <GODSHAWL@UCBEH>
Date: Saturday, 04 Jun 1994 20:48:51 -0500 (EST)
Subj: Re: SHK 5.0493 Re: Light and Heat
(3) From: David Scott Wilson-Okamura <
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Date: Saturday, 4 Jun 94 20:56:54 CDT
Subj: Spevack concordance
(4) From: Luc Borot <
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Date: Sunday, 5 Jun 1994 14:14:24 +0100
Subj: Re: Philosophers
(5) From: W. L. Godshalk <GODSHAWL@UCBEH>
Date: Sunday, 05 Jun 1994 15:46:23 -0500 (EST)
Subj: The stately legate of the Persian King, Once More
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From: David Joseph Kathman <
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Date: Saturday, 4 Jun 94 17:46:11 CDT
Subject: Hollywood Bard
Dear SHAKSPERians:
There's a movie which just opened Friday (at least here in the U.S.) called
*Renaissance Man*, in which Danny DeVito plays a guy who gets a job teaching
Shakespeare to new recruits on an Army base. He gets them into the Bard by
such techniques as having them do a rap version of *Hamlet* (one of the
recruits is played by rapper Marky Mark), and apparently there's one scene
where one of the recruits recites Henry's St. Crispin's Day speech from *Henry
V* to their incredulous sergeant. I haven't actually seen the movie --- I
gleaned the above from several reviews I read. These reviews were negative but
not scathing --- apparently the plot is fairly predictable --- but it sounds
like it could be interesting for the folks on this list, especially those who
teach Shakespeare for a living. If anybody out there has seen the movie, or
plans to, maybe they could post a review.
Dave Kathman
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From: William Godshalk <GODSHAWL@UCBEH>
Date: Saturday, 04 Jun 1994 20:48:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 5.0493 Re: Light and Heat
Comment: Re: SHK 5.0493 Re: Light and Heat
Thank you, Dave Evett and Ron Moyer, for clearing up my confusion. I should
have checked Hibbard.
Yours, Bill Godshalk
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From: David Scott Wilson-Okamura <
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Date: Saturday, 4 Jun 94 20:56:54 CDT
Subject: Spevack concordance
If anyone is still looking for the Spevack concordance, I've seen two at the
Seminary Coop Bookstore in Chicago. Phone: 312/752-4381 or 312/752-1959,
5757 South University Ave., Chicago, IL 60610.
Yours faithfully,
David Wilson-Okamura
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From: Luc Borot <
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Date: Sunday, 5 Jun 1994 14:14:24 +0100
Subject: Re: Philosophers
Matthew Westcott Smith <V109LV3R@UBVMS.BITNET> asks if we can find other
references to philosophers other than Aristotle and Machiavelli.
Matthew, what do you exactly mean by 'reference'? do you want ONLY the
philosophes *named*, or others just alluded to, or would you also be interested
in the titles of their works or the use of their best-known concepts if we
encounter such information? It would extend the search quite a lot. There is
quite a lot of platonist or neo-platonist allusions, many in the sonnets, and
especially concerning love. In a collaboration with others, Shakespeare was
involved in a play on a philosopher: Sir Thomas More, though More was not
involved as philosopher but rather as statesman.
I can't find if the Cicero in *JC* is THE Cicero, and I don't have the time and
annotated editions to check it here at home. I'm interested, so I will try to
find others. If you only want the names mentioned, use a concordance, but
beware of homonymies, which may be the case for the above-mentioned Cicero...
If I may venture a very poor joke, you have the rape of Lucrece, which a French
student of mine once thought was an episode of the life of Lucretius, since the
woman and the philosopher have the same name in French: 'Lucr\ece'...
Weather's fine down here, but student papers are on my desk; I will take them
to the balcony, where I can face the task with less boredom and greater
equanimity, which is a good thing for the students. I'd rather go to the beach,
but duty calls and deadlines kill my philosophical headonism from time to time.
Enough with self-pity. Fare ye well,
Philosophically,
Luc
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From: W. L. Godshalk <GODSHAWL@UCBEH>
Date: Sunday, 05 Jun 1994 15:46:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The stately legate of the Persian King, Once More
A few weeks ago, I asked if anyone could help me find an historical basis for
the following lines in THE TAMING OF A SHREW: "As was the Massie Robe that late
adornd/The stately legate of the Persian King" (Scene vii, 46-47, Bullough,
Vol. I, p. 85). Although I received several suggestions, nothing immediately
surfaced.
A few days ago, I read the following in David Bradley's FROM TEXT TO
PERFORMANCE IN THE ELIZABETHAN THEATRE: PREPARING THE PLAY FOR THE STAGE
(Cambridge U.P., 1992): "In ALPHONSUS, KING OF ARAGON, the lords in Act IV are
sent as 'Legats to god Mahomet', and recall a visit from 'the stately legate of
the Persian King'" (p. 256, note 21). I don't own a copy of Greene's aplay, and
rushed to the library to get one. I found the first line quoted (Malone Society
reprint, line 1232), but now that I have read Act IV three times I say with
some confidence that "the stately legate of the Persian King" is NOT there. I
have skimmed the rest of the play several times, just in case: no Persian
legate did I find.
Now, the question is: Did Bradley import the reference to the stately Persian
legate from A SHREW? Or is it from another play? If the simile is from another
play, we may have a dating argument for A SHREW.
I've tried to find Monash University (Bradley's academic home) on gopher, and
it's not there. Does Bradley have e-mail? Does anyone have his e-mail address?
Or, heaven forfend, must I send him a letter on PAPER? I am, of course, hoping
that Bradely can clear up this little problem.
Yours, Bill Godshalk
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