Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 5, No. 0276. Monday, 28 March 1994.
(1) From: Timothy Bowden <
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Date: Sunday, 27 Mar 1994 07:04:15 PST
Subj: Re: SHK 5.0268 Re: Macbeth's Death
(2) From: Charles Edelman <
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Date: Monday, 28 Mar 94 16:57:00 EST
Subj: Macbeth's Death
(3) From: Phyllis Rackin <
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Date: Monday, 28 Mar 1994 09:34:20 -0500 (EST)
Subj: Re: SHK 5.0271 Re: Macbeth's Death
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From: Timothy Bowden <
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Date: Sunday, 27 Mar 1994 07:04:15 PST
Subject: 5.0268 Re: Macbeth's Death
Comment: Re: SHK 5.0268 Re: Macbeth's Death
> I guess my objection as an audience member of your production would be
> that the only thing that *saves* Macbeth for me at the end of the play
> is that he stays the course, he doesn't cave in, that he goes out "as
> a man," if you will. When I taught Macbeth to inner city minority
> students, that was something they were very pleased to see in the
> play--yes, Macbeth did horrible things, yes, he had a terrible fall,
> but when they brainstormed all the things he *could* have done at the
> end (tried to cut a deal, sneaked away in disguise, committed suicide,
> surrendered outright), they saw guts--macho, to some of them--in his
> ending, a return to the noble figure we glimpsed if only too briefly
> at the beginning of the play. Elise Earthman <
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I'll bet they all bought into the juvenille macho depravity of Othello,
as well. I'm wondering if persisting in unspeakable acts in the name of
`manhood' to reach those impressed by such show is a fit objective here.
What's the street application? A drug dealer trapped in a crack house
with an automatic weapon?
"Lookit me, maw, I'm Macbeth!" (- after Jimmy Cagney in _White Heat_.)
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From: Charles Edelman <
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Date: Monday, 28 Mar 94 16:57:00 EST
Subject: Macbeth's Death
To remove "hold enough" from the words previous to them breaks up a
couplet, which seems to me odd. "Damned be he that cries," left alone by
itself, seems appropriate for a schoolyard fight, which is over when someone
starts crying.
My reading of Macbeth's final moments is that he is once again "brave
Macbeth--well he deserves that name" and that he knows he is going to die,
but is determined to do so bravely. I do not see any speeches in the Folio
text which would appear consistent with his begging for a halt. This, of
course, proves nothing, and the suggested staging COULD be both fitting and
interesting.
If self-advertisement is permitted, Timothy might find the discussion of the
Macbeth combat in my book, 'Brawl Ridiculous: Swordfighting in Shakespeare's
Plays,' Manchester U.P. 1992, of interest.
Best wishes,
Charles Edelman
Edith Cowan University, Australia
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From: Phyllis Rackin <
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Date: Monday, 28 Mar 1994 09:34:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 5.0271 Re: Macbeth's Death
Comment: Re: SHK 5.0271 Re: Macbeth's Death
Meanwhile, is it so
> hard to imagine Macduff, on his dutiful way to see Malcolm crowned at
> Scone, encountering three strange women who wish to have a word with him?
> --Ron Macdonwald
No, it isn't. But given the fact that it isn't, why do you suppose the
text we have doesn't?
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