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Re: Non-Trad Sh; Olivier's Hamlet; Chronology
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 6, No. 0197.  Friday, 10 March 1995.
 
(1)     From:   Mary Jane Miller <
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        Date:   Thursday, 9 Mar 95 10:00:56 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0162  Re: non-trad Shakespeare entertainments
 
(2)     From:   E. J. Duggan <
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        Date:   Thursday, 9 Mar 95 16:22:22 GMT
        Subj:   Olivier's Hamlet
 
(3)     From:   W. L. Godshalk <
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        Date:   Thursday, 09 Mar 1995 23:01:51 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0187  Re: Chronology
 
 
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From:           Mary Jane Miller <
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Date:           Thursday, 9 Mar 95 10:00:56 -0500
Subject: 6.0162  Re: non-trad Shakespeare entertainments
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0162  Re: non-trad Shakespeare entertainments
 
The 2 Wayne and Shuster Shakesperian sketches are immortal in Canadian Memory.
Frank Shuster is editing black and white versions of these and other sketches
for the CBC so they will reappear on the CBC next year. Meanwhile for
Shakesperians who saw the sketches on the Ed Sullivan Show or when sold to the
UK et al. and who want their won copy, write to the CBC Boutique, Box 500,
Station A, Toronto, M5W 1E9. They will know whether or not these videos have
been released for private sale.
 
Mary Jane Miller
 
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From:           E. J. Duggan <
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Date:           Thursday, 9 Mar 95 16:22:22 GMT
Subject:        Olivier's Hamlet
 
John Mills writes to the list that he 'cut his teeth' on Olivier's Hamlet.
 
As a Brit, I have great difficulty with Olivier's appearance in this film
because of his strong resemblance to the camp British comic Dick Emery.
 
Has anyone else noticed this similarity, or is it just me?
 
Ooo-ooh you are awful!  But I like it.
 
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From:           W. L. Godshalk <
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Date:           Thursday, 09 Mar 1995 23:01:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 6.0187  Re: Chronology
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0187  Re: Chronology
 
Pat Buckridge wants to shake the traditional assumptions about the chronology
of the canon. HAMLET provides us with an interesting case. Obviously the play
was written in or around 1600. (I use the word "obviously" with irony.)
Therefore any earlier reference to Hamlet must be a reference to the Ur-Hamlet
written by Kyd. Although McKerrow argued that Nashe was not referring to the
mythical Ur-Hamlet or to Kyd, I think most recent commentators accept both
identifications. David Kathman argues vigorously for this identification.
 
But read Q1 as an early version of HAMLET, hypothesize that HAMLET was written
and rewritten beginning in the late 1580's, consider Q2 and F1 as two more
versions of this oft-rewritten play, and references to HAMLET before 1600
become evidence that Shakespeare wrote a version of HAMLET before that date.
 
Until I see the Ur-Hamlet in hard-copy, I intend to remain skeptical of its
existence.
 
My major point, however, is: once you acknowledge that the plays may have been
or indeed were revised (LEAR, for example) firm dates of composition distort
the historical reality.
 
Yours, Bill Godshalk
 

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