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Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 6, No. 0799.  Tuesday, 17 October 1995.
 
(1)     From:   Moray McConnachie <
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        Date:   Monday, 16 Oct 1995 15:29:41 +0100 (BST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0789 What is this list for, exactly?
 
(2)     From:   John Boni <
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        Date:   Monday, 16 Oct 1995 16:03:24 -0500 (CDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
(3)     From:   Norman J. Myers <
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        Date:   Monday, 16 Oct 1995 11:06:50 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
 
(4)     From:   Amy Ulen <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 17 Oct 1995 00:45:31 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
 
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From:           Moray McConnachie <
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Date:           Monday, 16 Oct 1995 15:29:41 +0100 (BST)
Subject: 6.0789 What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0789 What is this list for, exactly?
 
If Jonathan Sawday finds this list such a fag, why doesn't he simply
unsubscribe from it? Clearly the rest of us find it useful or enjoyable in some
respect, or we wouldn't still be out here. Certainly, I delete some messages
from this list unread. That is my prerogative. However, others may be
interested. Moreover, I frequently read messages simply because it gives me
some idea of what scholars, directors, or even (God help us!) "Joe Public" are
thinking about and working on in Shakespeare: even if I don't agree with them,
I think it's important to know what directions Shakesperean studies are taking.
Why should I assume that because I'm not interested, no one else is or should
be?
 
I work in the Renaissance field, but not specifically on Shakespeare. SHAKSPER
never pretended to be a highly specific, academic-only list. A purely academic
list might be useful, I suppose, but I see no reason why SHAKSPER should become
this. Even if the tone of discussion occasionally irritates, I have had several
(factual) queries usefully answered from the list, and I personally am
extremely grateful to Hardy for his work on it, and hope he feels able to
continue with it.
 
Certainly, we could take a vote on closing the list, but why should Jonathan
assume that because he gets little out of it, it should close? Really, sir, if
you wish to go, then go quietly. I can with pleasure give you detailed
instructions on how to unsubscribe if you have any difficulties with it.
 
Yours,
Moray McConnachie
 
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From:           John Boni <
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Date:           Monday, 16 Oct 1995 16:03:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
A brief comment.  I've been on this list for about a year now.  When I first
entered, I sent a post commenting on the trivia of some posts and wondering if
the lack of an editor and copyright protection might be a factor. Perhaps I
assumed that an academic list would be solely one of high seriousness.
 
In the past year I have found the list valuable on balance.  Perhaps my
situation is relevant to the value I find in the list.  As an academic dean
(and an administrator for the last fourteen years), I do not find it easy to
"keep up" with scholarship.  The bibliographic suggestions on SHAKSPER have
been invaluable; the discussions haave often been illuminating; and the
(usually) predictable clashes of personalities, sometimes disguised as clashes
of critical philosophy, have been amusing.
 
Not everything has been of value; some is a waste.  As far as the "waste," I
recall my smug and youthful satisfaction when I saw a failed Ingmar Bergman
film years ago.  (Smile, everyone.)  We removed the authorship question issue.
What, exactly, would anyone want to change?
 
John M. Boni, Dean                     
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From:           Norman J. Myers <
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Date:           Monday, 16 Oct 1995 11:06:50 -0400
Subject: 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
 
Re: Jonathan Sawday's Statement/Question
 
Wonderfully put!  I'm beginning to wonder myself.  One of the pitfalls of
college teaching must be the temptation to listen to our own words or read our
own writings and think they are important when we really should be helping our
students find out for themselves what really *is* important. We should also be
listening respectfully and in a civilized manner to what our colleagues have to
say.  Who knows, we all may learn something.  In the meantime, thank heaven for
the "D" key
 
Norman Myers
Bowling Green State University.
 
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From:           Amy Ulen <
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Date:           Tuesday, 17 Oct 1995 00:45:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0796 Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
Marcello Cappuzzo asks Jonathan Sawday, "why don't you state what you'd like to
discuss to start with, instead of wasting your time (and perhaps not only
yours) listing what you do not like of other people's discussions?"
 
This question is the reason why I don't post to this group.  Mr. Cappuzzo
flames Mr. Sawday for expressing his views.  I have questions that I would like
to ask of the group, but I don't want to be flamed by people who feel my
questions are stupid.
 
Luckily, I run a Shakespeare list for participants of the NEH National
Institute on Teaching Shakespeare with Shakespeare & Company.  I take all of my
questions to this list, because I know the people will be supportive.
 
Amy Ulen
Moscow Alternative School Center
 

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