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Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 6, No. 0807. Wednesday, 18 October 1995.
 
(1)     From:   Christine Mack Gordon <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 17 Oct 95 12:49:03 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 6.0799 What's the list for, exactly?
 
(2)     From:   Michael Yogev <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 11:22:47 IST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
(3)     From:   Annalisa Castaldo <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 08:16:24 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
(4)     From:   Robert C. Baum <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 09:52:50 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
 
 
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From:           Christine Mack Gordon <
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Date:           Tuesday, 17 Oct 95 12:49:03 -0500
Subject: What's the list for, exactly?
Comment:        SHK 6.0799 What's the list for, exactly?
 
I hope that Moray McConnachie's "even (God help us!) 'Joe Public'" was intended
ironically, since some of the most interesting posts to me are those from
people outside academia. While scholars may quibble and quarrel over minutiae,
many others are simply passionate about Shakespeare's work and enjoy the
opportunity to discuss it from multiple perspectives. I like to read just about
everything that is posted to the list, though the sometimes spiteful attacks
are tiresome. I'm here because I love the plays and the poems, and because I
enjoy being part of a community (virtual or otherwise) that feels the same way.
 
Chris Gordon, aka Jane Public
 
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Date:           Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 11:22:47 IST
Subject: 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
Dear Ms. Ulen,
 
It may be a cultural distinction for one living in Israel where ad hominem and
"flaming" attacks are such common fare as to constitute a norm of public and
private discourse (and don't misunderstand, I do not really enjoy such a
"normal" mode of discourse), but I think it a shame that someone involved, as
you apparently are, in the activity of finding new methods and approaches to
teaching Shakespeare feels she has no forum for her ideas on SHAKSPER.  Granted
the dominant voices here become somewhat tendentious and even "flamish," but
one advantage of the list is that it brings together people from solid (stolid?
sullied?) academic posts and others from the hinterlands or margins of those
same academies, as well as a number of folks simply interested in WS.  I find
the variety refreshing, the acrimony bracing (if sometimes a bit too abrasive),
and I wish someone with your particular interest in Shakespeare for a broader
audience would feel more comfortable about posting her responses--and more
importantly her teaching experiences and suggestions--for the rest of us.  I
for one would value any insights you may have about alternative means of
bringing WS to life for my students in the same way his works live for me.
 
    Yours,
    Michael Yogev (
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Date:           Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 08:16:24 EDT
Subject: 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0799  Re: What is this list for, exactly?
 
Although I will no doubt be accused of flaming Amy Ulen, I must point out that
simply asking why someone doesn't post questions is hardly a flame. That
practice involves the use of vulgar language, brutal and personal attacks and a
the sole desire to humiliate the recepient. In fact, the SHAKSPER list has been
remarkably flame free, even during heated discussions.
 
As to the question of closing the list, my vote is hell no. I have found some
of the discussions uninteresting personally and I have felt that the breakdown
along theoretical lines can quickly become predicatable. But I have also found
much of the discussion interesting and academically useful. And I find the
"trivia" fun. Why must we be serious all the time?
                                                           Annalisa Castaldo
 
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Date:           Wednesday, 18 Oct 95 09:52:50 EDT
Subject: 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
Comment:        Re: SHK 6.0789  What is this list for, exactly?
 
To Jonathan Sawday of the University of Southampton:
 
Unsubsrcibe, you dolt!  And leave the vapid selfaggrandizement on your resume.
 
This group is for a broad range of interests, some of which may not be to your
liking.  Many times I, too, find myself doing the "apple-delete" shuffle one
too many times in a given day.  But I always remember that I invited these
posts into my life and that I always have the option to, um, DELETE, and, oh
here's a radical concept, UNSUBSCRIBE, when off-topics flood the hard drive K
reservoir.  And just imagine what posts DON'T make it to the group!
 
But wouldn't one assume this when one subscribes to an international,
downloaded computer conference?  I suppose not, given that today *I* had to
read your verbal flatulence when I would've prefered to continue with the
informative (albeit tangential at times) posts on MoV and the importance of
Shakespeare.
 
In case you were wondering, Mr. Sawday:  this was a flame and I do become a net
fascist when it comes to the degree of intolerance you displayed.  Criticism is
one thing; patronizing ignorance is another.
 
Robert Baum
Dartmouth College
 

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