1996

Announcement: Renaissance Forum; ISA/SAA Roommates

Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0249.  Sunday, 31 March 1996.

(1)     From:   R. D. H. Wells <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 29 Mar 1996 15:49:47 +0000 (GMT)
        Subj:   Announcement: Renaissance Forum

(2)     From:   Kay Pilzer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Saturday, 30 Mar 1996 11:02:14 -0600 (CST)
        Subj:   ISA/SAA Roommates


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From:           R. D. H. Wells <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 29 Mar 1996 15:49:47 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:        Announcement: Renaissance Forum

                  Renaissance Forum: Announcement

We are pleased to announce the first issue of _Renaissance Forum_, a new
electronic refereed journal specialising in early-modern English literary and
historical scholarship and the critical methodologies of these fields. The
journal is published biannually from the Departments of English and History at
the University of Hull, UK. Its aim is to offer a platform for work of the
highest scholarly standard in an electronic medium, and to provide a forum for
scholarly and theoretical debate. The journal is available on the World Wide
Web at

http://www.hull.ac.uk/Hull/EL_Web/renforum/

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Volume 1, no. 1 (March 1996) - Contents

Articles

Editorial: Renaissance Texts and Renaissance Republicanism (Glenn Burgess)

Transgressing Boundaries: Women's Writing in the Renaissance and
Reformation (Janet Clare)

Attacking the Cult-Historicists (Martin Coyle)

Making all Religion Ridiculous: Of Culture high and Low - the Polemics of
Toleration, 1667-1673 (Derek Hirst)


Reviews

Markku Peltonen, Civic Humanism and Republicanism in English Political
Thought, 1570-1640 (by Glenn Burgess)

Susan D. Amussen & Mark A. Kishlansky (eds), Political Culture and
Cultural Politics in Early Modern Europe (by Mark Stoyle)

Alvin Kernan, Shakespeare, The Kings Playwright: Theater in the Stuart
Court, 1603-1613 (by Steve Longstaffe)

Robert Shaughnessy, Representing Shakespeare: England, History and the
RSC (by Michael Scott)

Anthony Parr (ed.), Three Renaissance Travel Plays (by Emma Smith)


Glenn Burgess
Robin Headlam Wells

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From:           Kay Pilzer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 30 Mar 1996 11:02:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject:        ISA/SAA Roommates

Hello--

There is still room to share my $60/night room at the Hyatt for one or two more
impoverished women scholars.

Please contact me directly:

Kay Pilzer
Vanderbilt University
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Re: Physical Size of Elizabethans; RSC MND

Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0248.  Sunday, 31 March 1996.

(1)     From:   Stephanie Hughes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 29 Mar 1996 07:58:02 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0245  Re: Physical Size of Elizabethans

(2)     From:   Michael Sharpston <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 29 Mar 1996 15:48:12 +0000 (GMT)
        Subj:   RSC MND


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From:           Stephanie Hughes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 29 Mar 1996 07:58:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 7.0245  Re: Physical Size of Elizabethans
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0245  Re: Physical Size of Elizabethans

Jim Schaeffer;

Although the evidence seems clear that people were smaller in bygone days
(there are just too many small clothes for them all to have been left by people
who couldn't wear them for that reason), there certainly were individuals we
would consider tall today, such as Peter the Great (6' 5") and Abraham Lincoln
(and others I can't recall), and their height, though commented upon by
contemporaries, was obviously not regarded as such an enormity that we could
construe them to be all that unusual. I think it is interesting also that
within families who have emigrated to the U.S. from Europe, particularly
southern Europe, the height seems to increase, sometimes to a surprising
extent, within a generation or two (or three).

Stephanie Hughes

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From:           Michael Sharpston <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 29 Mar 1996 15:48:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:        RSC MND

Like Scott Crozier, I had my reservations about the RSC MND.  The verse was
beautifully enunciated, and the staging extremely competent  --  but these one
expects from the RSC. There was a bit of homoerotic business I could have done
without, since it seemed out of place and perhaps mainly intended to shock the
bourgeoisie.  But overall, very professional.

What the production did NOT do, except for one or two moments, was move my
feelings or create emotional magic.  Can RSC sometimes be too clever for their
own good?  I still think my compatriots at the RSC have a serious claim to be
the "best repertory theatre in the world", however...

A different play, but by contrast H5 here recently at the Shakespeare Theatre
in DC was absolutely outstanding, with a Henry 5 I shall remember for a very
long while.

                                Michael Sharpston
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Englishness; Let there be light; SSE in Vermont

Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0246.  Thursday, 28 March 1996.

(1)     From:   Scott Crozier <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 13:41:54 +1000
        Subj:   Re: Englishness

(2)     From:   Michael Best <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996 21:40:42 -0800
        Subj:   Let there be light

(3)     From:   The Shenandoah Shakespeare Express <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 11:58:32 -0500
        Subj:   SSE in Vermont


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From:           Scott Crozier <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 13:41:54 +1000
Subject:        Re: Englishness

I presume that this topic may have already been discussed at some length at a
time when I was not a member of this list, so I apologise if this is repetition
but I was wondering what SHAKSPERians thought was the most English of
Shakespeare's plays. Discounting the English Histories, which play(s)
encapsulates what was "English" for Shakespeare? If there is such a beast, what
elements of Englishness did he highlight?

Regards,
Scott Crozier

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From:           Michael Best <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996 21:40:42 -0800
Subject:        Let there be light

Bruce Fenton comments on Shakespeare's variations on the word "light." My
favourite is from _Love's Labours Lost_:

. . . all delights are vain, but that most vain
Which, with pain purchased, doth inherit pain:
As painfully to pore upon a book
To seek the light of truth, while truth the while
Doth falsely blind the eyesight of his look.
Light, seeking light, doth light of light beguile;
So, ere you find where light in darkness lies,
Your light grows dark by losing of your eyes.
     (1.1.70-79)

Enlightening indeed.

Michael Best
Department of English, University of Victoria,
Victoria B.C. V8W 3W1, Canada.
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Coordinating Editor, Internet Editions of Shakespeare
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From:           The Shenandoah Shakespeare Express <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 11:58:32 -0500
Subject:        SSE in Vermont

The Shenandoah Shakespeare Express will be performing in the Burlington/
Colchester area during the second week of October.  If anyone on this list
would like to share the week with St. Michael's (who is already on board)
please contact Margo McGirr at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

I am the new Booking Coordinator and I'll be representing the SSE at the
ISA...for those of you who have seen the SSE in the past three years, I played
Olivia, Kate, and Cleopatra.  Please feel free to stop by my table in LA or
e-mail me for further discussion.

Re: Death of Sam Schoenbaum

Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0247.  Sunday, 31 March 1996.

(1)     From:   Ted Nellen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 29 Mar 1996 01:54:52 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0244 Death of Sam Schoenbaum

(2)     From:   Tad Davis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 29 Mar 1996 14:23:46 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Schoenbaum


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From:           Ted Nellen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 29 Mar 1996 01:54:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 7.0244 Death of Sam Schoenbaum
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0244 Death of Sam Schoenbaum

My condolences to the family and Shakespearean scholars around the world.

I would like to say that Mr Schoenbaum has had a great influence upon me.  I
had the pleasure of hearing him and speaking to him one evening in NYC at the
CUNY Graduate Center in the late 80's.  He had inspired and ignited a fire in
me in regards to  the Lost years of Shakespeare.  Those years fascinate me, and
he had done some remarkable work on that subject.  He shared and complimented
me on my ideas and inspired me to further work.  We also shared in the pleasure
of having seen Patrick Stewart play Shylock and in considering it a brilliant
performance.  I just wished to share my brief time with this brilliant man with
you. Thank you, Sam Schoenbaum.

Give you good night. - O, farewell.
Ted

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From:           Tad Davis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject:        Schoenbaum
Date:           Friday, 29 Mar 1996 14:23:46 -0500 (EST)

I was very saddened yesterday to hear that Samuel Schoenbaum had died. It's
probably presumptuous of me to say anything about him in this forum; I'm not a
professional Shakespearean; I only met him once, in person, for about 20
minutes, and exchanged letters with him three or four times. Yet I feel a
terrible sense of loss. His passionate devotion to accuracy and detail -- never
losing sight of the humanity of his subjects -- touched me deeply and had a
profound influence on my intellectual development. I never took a class with
him, and yet in some sense I feel that I was a student of his, or at least an
auditor. He enriched my life, and it seems ungrateful not to say anything in
return.

I first heard of him the year after I graduated with a B.A. in English. I was
working in a medical library in Richmond, Virginia when the "Documentary Life"
was first announced. I was trying to write a play that involved Shakespeare,
and I had taken up the hobby of reading about his life. I'd read Marchette
Chute, Anthony Burgess, and A. L. Rowse. Now came someone promising to deliver
the real goods.

But I was put off by the price. In 1975, I think it was $50; on my income at
the time, it might as well have been $500. I probed the libraries in town,
hoping one of them would order it. When the public library finally got a copy,
it was kept on reserve, not allowed to circulate; I spent a number of lunch
hours that year leafing through the book.

Meanwhile I found a copy of "Shakespeare's Lives" in the library and started
reading that too. At first it didn't appeal to me. The first 50 pages or so,
the summary of what's known, is a bit dry, like the documents themselves. But
by the time I'd gotten through the first chapter of part II, I was hooked. The
Schoenbaum in later chapters is quite different from the Schoenbaum of that
opening section.  He was witty, acerbic at times, devastating in his analysis,
and yet always with a compassionate eye for detail. The people he wrote about
sounded like real people -- some of them brilliant, some of them insane, some
of them thieves and mutilators of texts, all of them fellow human beings. Over
all the bustle watched that stern and dispassionate judge, the one who said:
what matters is what your sources say -- not what you think they say. Open your
eyes and see what's actually in front of you. What matters is the thing itself.

During the middle of this reading experience, my wife and I took a long drive
through North and South Carolina to visit her family in Georgia. Interminable
hours on interstates, no tape player in the car, no radio stations we wanted to
listen to.... so I took out my copy of "Shakespeare's Lives" and started
reading it out loud. We took turns driving and reading Schoenbaum to each
other. We've often agreed, over the course of the last 20 years, that it was
one of the best trip entertainments we've ever selected.

I wrote him a letter of appreciation. To my amazement, he answered it. He
rarely heard from people outside the profession, he said, and it was a great
pleasure to know that he had been able to "get through."

I corresponded with him several more times -- once when the "Compact
Documentary Life" came out, a couple of times with research questions, and
again many years later when his Signet introductory volume came out. He always
answered my letters generously, with gratitude for my appreciation and with a
reference or two for me to follow up if I was interested. If I was ever in
Washington, he said once, I should look him up at the Folger; he was usually
there on such-and-such a day.

I took him at his word, and sent him a letter saying I would be able to visit
the Folger on that day in two weeks, and I would most certainly look him up.

When the day arrived, I took the train to DC and headed for the Folger. I had
never been there before, and the security was, to say the least, impressive.
The guard at the front desk laughed when I told him I was there to see Prof.
Schoenbaum. "Haven't seen him today," he said. He made it clear that even if I
was a Ph.D. candidate with three letters of recommendation I would have a hard
time getting past him. But if I wanted to look around the gallery for awhile, I
could do that.

I wandered around for over an hour. Every time I walked past the guard he gave
me a pitying look, and I averted my eyes. Outside it began to snow.

When I was about to give up, Prof. Schoenbaum scurried in, apologizing for the
misunderstanding. He'd never gotten word that I was there. He brought me to a
little sitting room in back, offered me coffee, told me how pleased he was to
actually meet a "fan." Then he asked me a lot of questions about my own plays
and writings. We talked about the (then) upcoming BBC Shakespeare on PBS ("some
of them," he said cautiously, "are likely to be better than others"). He
introduced me to one of his colleagues who wandered by. He said the next time
my wife and I came to Washington, we should give him and his wife a call, maybe
get together for a chat. The visit ended abruptly when someone came in to
announce the Library was closing because of the snow. He walked me out, we
shook hands, and I left. That was it.

We corresponded a couple of times after that. Once, when I was trying to write
an article, I needed an obscure book by Halliwell-Phillipps the Folger had (and
apparently only one or two other places on the face of the earth). I wrote to
him, and he offered to give me a reference to help me get access to the book,
or at least a photocopy. "It would be good, though," he said, "if you spelled
his name right when you ask." I had left the second "P" out of Phillipps. I was
mortified for about five minutes; but the gentle tone of the correction sank
home. It matters what your sources say -- not what you think they say. Open
your eyes and see what's actually in front of you. What matters is the thing
itself.

In the years since then, I moved into a career in programming. Yet Prof.
Schoenbaum's influence on me continues. Every time I have to investigate a
problem or document a program, I think about him and his indefatigable quest
for the accurate detail and the balanced analysis. (I still have the original
poster, with the Droeshout engraving, announcing the publication of "Mr.
William Shakespeares Documentary Life set forth by S. Schoenbaum and Printed
according to the True Originall Copies." It's hanging next to my desk.) The
body of work he created is an intimidating legacy. But it didn't get there
overnight, I tell myself. He built it up piece by piece, picking up one
document at a time, examining it, turning it over, transcribing it, checking
the transcription, and moving on. He kept his focus on what was actually in
front of him, not what he thought was in front of him, not what he wished was
in front of him. And when he didn't know, he had the grace and courage to admit
he didn't know. And when he made a mistake or discovered new information, he
wasn't afraid to "stop the presses" to get it out, even if was only in a
paragraph tucked away on the last page of the index.

And braced with that reflection, I open up my listings and reports and go to
work.

Tad

Re: RSC MND; R3 Film; Physical Size of Elizabethans

Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0245.  Thursday, 28 March 1996.

(1)     From:   Scott Crozier <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 13:35:02 +1000
        Subj:   Re: RSC Dream

(2)     From:   Laura Blanchard <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 08:40:48 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0242 Qs: *R3* Film

(3)     From:   James Schaefer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 12:32:27 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Physical Size of Elizabethans


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From:           Scott Crozier <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 13:35:02 +1000
Subject:        Re: RSC Dream

Rick Kincaid commented:

"For those of you in the NYC area: If you have the chance to see the RSC's A
Midsummer Night's Dream at the Lunt Fontane please do so. The production was
imaginative, sensual and humorous, the acting dead on. I thoroughly enjoyed it,
which was more than I expected, having seen it and done too many times myself.

And though it does capture the sensuality of the fairies and the lovers, it
isn't so overt that you'll be answering uncomfortable questions from your
children on the way home from the theater."

I too have seen this production - four times and I would suggest that the last
paragraph of the above comment suggests more about the inadequacies of the
production than its supposed brilliance. It is colourful, it sounds beautiful;
but it lacks integrity of character; it gets lost by doubling the fairies with
the mechanicals when the central dream is not Bottom's; it is static and the
lovers relive the buffoonery of Peter Hall's 1958 production.

A production for kids maybe, but not for anyone out for theatre for the brain.

Regards,
Scott Crozier

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From:           Laura Blanchard <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 08:40:48 -0500
Subject: 7.0242 Qs: *R3* Film
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0242 Qs: *R3* Film

I have one of the pre-release reviews from SHAKSPER posted on our McKellen film
site, along with excerpts of reviews from the major NY papers and virtually
everything from the international distribution company's press kit. There's a
link right from the home page -- you can't miss it, since it's a thumbnail of
McKellen in full 30s regalia.

Regards,
Laura Blanchard
Richard III Society, American Branch
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.webcom.com/blanchrd/index.html

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From:           James Schaefer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 28 Mar 1996 12:32:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Physical Size of Elizabethans

Elizabeth Schmitt:

I am inclined to agree with the short-bed, small-clothes, low-ceiling evidence,
but, as others have pointed out, beware of the vagaries of time in what has
survived as evidence, or of selection processes of which we may not be aware
(*A Canticle for Leibowitz* was a nice fictional example of the latter some
decades ago).  Having bumped my head at Fallingwater, I might draw mistaken
conclusions about the stature of Edgar Kaufmann's family, when in fact Frank
Llyod Wright built everything to his own 5'7" scale.

Jim Schaefer
6'1"

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