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Re: Funeral Elegy
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0185.  Friday, 8 March 1996.

(1)     From:   W. L. Godshalk <
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        Date:   Thursday, 07 Mar 1996 21:10:14 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy

(2)     From:   Stephanie Hughes <
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        Date:   Friday, 8 Mar 1996 08:53:34 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy


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From:           W. L. Godshalk <
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Date:           Thursday, 07 Mar 1996 21:10:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy

Today while I was looking for something in the STC microfilms, I found another
candidate (I think) for W.S.. In Charles Butler's *The Feminine Monarchie*
(London: Printed by Iohn Haviland, 1623), STC 4193, there is dedicatory poem
"Ad Carolum Butler" in Latin signed Warnervs Sovth.  This is the only edition
of this work that I have had a chance to examine so far.

There is a period after "Sovth." so the name may be an abbreviation.  The
subtitle of Butler's work is *The Historie of Bees,* and Edmund Southerne wrote
a treatise on bees in 1593 (STC 22942).  Is it possible that the name of the
poet is Warner Southerne?

I've looked in Don Foster's index and find no reference to Warnervs Sovth or to
Charles Butler.  So, Don has either rejected Warnervs Sovth as a possible W.S.,
or he has not considered Sovth's -- admittedly -- minor claim.

Warnervs Sovth was probably an Oxford man (Charles Butler was) -- and thus may
have met William Peter at Oxford.

Of course, his dedicatory poem comes eleven years after the *Funeral Elegy,*
and further investigation may prove that Warnervs Sovth was only ten years old
in 1612!  Or, that his name was Southwell Warner!

But I throw this W.S. into the ring -- cum grano salis.

Yours, Bill Godshalk

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From:           Stephanie Hughes <
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Date:           Friday, 8 Mar 1996 08:53:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0172  Re: Funeral Elegy

In response to Don Foster's recent post on the Funeral Elegy:

The main arguments against this poem have probably all been presented, so there
seems little point in repeating them. As for some political reason for the
anti-Stratfordians to denigrate the poem, the opposite could also be said, that
the Stratfordians have the exact same reason for promoting the poem, i.e., that
its acceptance (including the authorship, reason for writing, and date of
composition) as Shakespeare's will silence those who would like to see this
kind of scholarly diligence directed toward the much more interesting question
of who really wrote the works of Shakespeare. Since Shakespeare professionals
have been accepting far greater anomalies for some four hundred years, their
acceptance of this poem will make no difference to those who cannot marry the
biography of Shakespeare of Stratford with the reality of the works. The
weakness of the poem, the uncertainty of its authorship, time of writing, and
reason for writing, can only raise again the question, why is there no
biography for Shakespeare when a writer like Ben Jonson is fully documented?

I will say no more on this subject since we have agreed to stay away from the
authorship issue on this list, but since Don Foster was allowed to have his say
regarding the anti-Stratfordians reasons for disliking the poem, I should have
the right to respond. Those who wish to take the matter further are welcome to
post to me directly.

Stephanie Hughes
 

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