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Re: Funeral Elegy
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, Vol. 7, No. 0222.  Sunday, 17 March 1996.

(1)     From:   Richard J Kennedy <
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        Date:   Saturday, 16 Mar 1996 08:49:55 -0800
        Subj:   Funeral Elegy

(2)     From:   Sydney Kasten <
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        Date:   Sunday, 17 Mar 1996 10:21:36 +0200 (IST)
        Subj:   Dr. Dodypoll, parodies, W.S.


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From:           Richard J Kennedy <
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Date:           Saturday, 16 Mar 1996 08:49:55 -0800
Subject:        Funeral Elegy

Correction:

                     Poetry lines        Use of "Whiles"

Funeral Elegy           578                 8 times
Shakespeare            5194                 once

Thanks to Bill Godshalk.  And here's another word, very small, but one of those
unconscious "word-prints".

                         Lines           Use of "In"

Funeral Elegy             578               120 times
Sonnets                   578                67 times


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Date:           Sunday, 17 Mar 1996 10:21:36 +0200 (IST)
Subject:        Dr. Dodypoll, parodies, W.S.

Richard Kennedy Gave us twenty examples of "quotations" from Shakespeare's
plays to be found in Doctor Dodypoll.

Here a comparison with another better known work.

Macbeth: I had most need of blessing and 'Amen'
         Stuck in my throat.  (Act II Scene II)

Melissa: "Are men", she would have added, but "are men"
         Stuck stuck in her throat!
                         (Princess Ida, Gilbert & Sullivan, Act II

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.  William Schwenk Gilbert was
one of the more popular satirists of the XIXth century, and he and his
collaborator enjoyed taking off both literary and operatic styles as well as
social attitudes.  Gilbert particularly enjoyed using iambic pentameter for
continuity dialogue and someone better versed than I might tell us to what
extent this was purely parodic imitation and to what extent the imitation of
emulation. Is it not as reasonable to suppose that Dr. Dodypoll was written by
an imitator as to suppose that Shakespeare wrote it and was so ashamed of it
that he didn't sign it?

By the way, Gilbert was fascinated by the plot idea of the magic lozenge, which
caused much tension with Sullivan who derided the idea.  It was eventually used
in "The Sorcerer" as a potion that worked like Oberon's drops in
"Midsummer-Night's Dream".

Sullivan wrote music to a ballet on a nautical theme called "Pineapple *Poll*",
I'm sure no relation to DodyPoll.  I don't think Gilbert had a hand in it.

Finally, I can't resist pointing to Gilbert's initials: W.S.  Gilbert was born
250 years after Shakespeare died.  Even given his gift for parody, his wicked,
iconoclastic sense of humour, and his ability to maintain a consistent dramatic
mood he could Never, Never commit forgery.

      All: What, Never?  (H.M.S. Pinafore  G&S)

But certainly the ink and paper and have been authenticated as to date etc.
Please excuse this wicked thought that has no place in a serious discussion.
 

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