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Re: Kisses, Conclusions
Shakespeare Electronic Conference, SHK 7.0950.  Sunday, 15 December 1996.

(1)     From:   Bradley S. Berens <
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        Date:   Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 10:48:20 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions

(2)     From:   John Ford <
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        Date:   Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 16:17:06 -0600 (CST)
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(3)     From:   W. L. Godshalk <
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        Date:   Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 18:00:53 -0500
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(4)     From:   A.E.B. Coldiron <
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        Date:   Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 21:17:11 -0500 (EST)
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        Date:   Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 03:10:53 -0500
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(6)     From:   Holger Klein <
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        Date:   Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 14:40:46 +0100
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From:           Bradley S. Berens <
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Date:           Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 10:48:20 -0800
Subject: 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions

For Chris Stoffolino,

Do you mean this passage from Twelfth Night, 5.1?--

             Clown:  Marry, sir, they praise me and make an ass of me;
                     now my foes tell me plainly I am an ass:  so that by
                     my foes, sir I profit in the knowledge of myself,
                     and by my friends, I am abused:  so that,
                     conclusions to be as kisses, if your four negatives
                     make your two affirmatives why then, the worse for
                     my friends and the better for my foes.

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Date:           Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 16:17:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions

To Cris Stroffolino,

I suppose by now you're the better for all your foes and friends who have sent
you their answers--and that by now you know, as well as any man in SHAKSPERIA,
that you're looking for Feste.  But that's all one.

                                                Cheers, John Ford

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From:           W. L. Godshalk <
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Date:           Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 18:00:53 -0500
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Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions

How about "conclusions to be as kisses" (TN 5.1.20)?

Yours, Bill Godshalk

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Date:           Saturday, 14 Dec 1996 21:17:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions

Twelfth Night's Clown Feste, at V.1.21 or so. Too late for an "A"?

A. Coldiron
Visiting Scholar, Johns Hopkins University
Assistant Professor, Towson State University

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From:           Chris Stroffolino <
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Date:           Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 03:10:53 -0500
Subject: 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949 Q: Kisses, Conclusions

Thanks to all who backchanneled me with the proper answer to my question and/or
quiz ---there was no single winner--everyone agreed that it was Ghandi I mean
Feste in act 5. Now, I'd like to turn the informational question into a more
speculative register. Why do you (anyone) think Feste would make the link
between "conclusions" and "kisses"? Especially in a play with such an interest
in "conclusion"--or is it just a rhetorical figure that should not be taken
seriously on the thematic level? Or does it complicate the "journeys end in
lovers meeting"? Just curious. Thanks, Chris Stroffolino

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From:           Holger Klein <
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Date:           Sunday, 15 Dec 1996 14:40:46 +0100
Subject: 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions
Comment:        Re: SHK 7.0949  Q: Kisses, Conclusions

Clown=Feste to the Duke in TN 5.1.ca. 21 (Harvard Concordance): "so that,
conclusions to be as kisses, if your four negatives make your two affirmatives
...."

Ask me another, this is too easy. And good luck!

Yours sincerely,
Holger Klein (Salzburg University)
 

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