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Re: Rosalind & Celia
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.0263.  Sunday, 23 February 1997.

[1]     From:   Bradley S. Berens <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 09:25:28 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0259  Re: DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a
Question

[2]     From:   Joseph "Chepe" Lockett <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 12:11:33 -0600 (CST)
        Subj:   Re: Rosalind & Celia

[3]     From:   C. David Frankel <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 20:35:57 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0250  DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a Question


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From:           Bradley S. Berens <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 09:25:28 -0800
Subject: 8.0259  Re: DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0259  Re: DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a
Question

Greetings SHAKSPEReans!

>"Has anyone heard ..." the lines in AYLI delivered in such a way as to
>suggest a lesbian relationship among the sisters.

I have two small statements: 1) They are cousins, not sisters.  2)  We
seem to have lost Eve Sedgwick's useful distinction between homosocial
and homosexual somewhere along the line, no?

All the best,
        Brad Berens

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From:           Joseph "Chepe" Lockett <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 12:11:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject:        Re: Rosalind & Celia

Miles Taylor writes:
> There is Celia's irrational distress at Rosalind's
> love for Orlando, which dissolves immediately upon the entrance of
> Oliver.  But for most of the play, Celia strikes me as a jealous lover.

It seems far more reasonable, and in keeping with the tenor of the rest
of the play, to treat Celia's anger as a result of simple neglect by her
best friend, rather than ardent jealousy.  Notice how she's dragged
around by Rosalind, but then totally ignored when Orlando arrives,
except when she's dragooned into performing the mock marriage between
Orlando and Ganymede (which our Celia, when I played Touchstone many
years ago, found absolutely ludicrous and foolhardy-and insulting, since
it was the only time in the whole scene that Rosalind spoke directly to
her).

Certainly there is a potential for homoeroticism in the play, in both
the Ganymede-Orlando (widely acknowledged) and Rosalind-Celia pairings
(now discussed), not to mention the comedy of Phebe-Ganymede.  But I
think trying to mine lesbianism from the text here is more an exercise
in literary theory than in dramatic likelihood.

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From:           C. David Frankel <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 Feb 1997 20:35:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 8.0250  DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a Question
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0250  DC's Shakespeare Theatre's AYL and a Question

For an interesting exploration of AYLI, you might take a look at Camille
Paglia's _Sexual Personae_.  She notes, for example, that "the childhood
liaison of Rosalind and Celia is also homoerotic", although she goes on
to note that "because of the premodern prestige of virginity, the union
of Rosalind and Celia is surely emotional and not overly sexual."
(202-3)

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