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RE: Ideology
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.0286.  Friday, 28 February 1997.

[1]     From:   Thomas Bishop <
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        Date:   Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 17:42:30 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

[2]     From:   Bruce Coggin <
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        Date:   Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 16:50:48 U
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

[3]     From:   Naomi Liebler <
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        Date:   Thursday, 27 Feb 97 19:56:30 EDT
        Subj:   RE: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

[4]     From:   Charles Ross <
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        Date:   Friday, 28 Feb 1997 09:58:20 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0284 RE: Ideology


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From:           Thomas Bishop <
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Date:           Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 17:42:30 -0500
Subject: 8.0284  RE: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

Gabriel Egan writes a propos of Shakespeare's plays:

> The texts are, after all, only grist to the scholar's mill.

Res ipsa loquitur.

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From:           Bruce Coggin <
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Date:           Thursday, 27 Feb 1997 16:50:48 U
Subject: 8.0284  RE: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

Great Caesar's ghost!  The hubris of a statement like "the texts are,
after all, only grist to the scholar's mill" (Gabriel Egan, 27/02/97)
simply takes the breath away.

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From:           Naomi Liebler <
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Date:           Thursday, 27 Feb 97 19:56:30 EDT
Subject: 8.0284  RE: Ideology
Comment:        RE: SHK 8.0284  RE: Ideology

In reply to Simon Morgan-Russell's question about Terry Hawkes's
American itinerary: How close is NW Ohio to NE New Jersey? Terry will be
speaking at Montclair State University on Thursday, 3 April, sometime
between 3 and 6 p.m.  (tba). For directions, please write to Dr. Sally
McWilliams, Dept. of English, MSU, Upper Montclair, NJ 07043. You can
also e-mail her: 
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 , but please include
your snail-mail address, as she is not prepared to e-mail separate sets
of directions to all and sundry.  Terry's talk is entitled "Harry Hunks,
Superstar." BY the time you send your request for directions, we'll have
nailed down the time of the talk more precisely, and Sally can give you
that information as well.

Montclair State University is about 12 miles due west of midtown NYC.
You could plan to spend the rest of the weekend in the Big Apple, which
is particularly delightful in Spring.

Do come!

Cheers,
Naomi Liebler

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From:           Charles Ross <
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Date:           Friday, 28 Feb 1997 09:58:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 8.0284 RE: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0284 RE: Ideology

I have trouble following some of the discussion on ideology. I am not
much of a philosopher. In order to clarify remarks by Gabriel Egan may I
be permitted to pursue, in this Shakespeare forum, my query on when he
feels sorry for Satan in Paradise Lost? Egan: "When he takes the
existential decision to fight a battle he knows he can't win."

1. Is there a difference between a decision and an existential decision?

2. Should we distinguish the battle Satan knows he can't win from the
battle he should not win?  The convicted murderer looking at me with
hate-filled eyes across the TV screen knows he can't win and he also
knows he should not win. The revolutionary who attracts my sympathy
often knows he cannot win but it may be that he should win. To feel
sorry for Satan requires the latter, Romantic reading.

Charles Ross
 

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