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Re: St. Crispin's Day; Michaelmas; Ideology
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.0382.  Monday, 24 March 1997.

[1]     From:   Steve Sohmer <
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        Date:   Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 16:53:00 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0378 Re: St. Crispin's Day

[2]     From:   Andrew Gurr <
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        Date:   Monday, 24 Mar 1997 11:31:23 +0000 (GMT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0378  Re: St. Crispin's Day

[3]     From:   Sean K. Lawrence <
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        Date:   Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 10:52:59 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0379  Re: Ideology


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From:           Steve Sohmer <
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Date:           Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 16:53:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 8.0378 Re: St. Crispin's Day
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0378 Re: St. Crispin's Day

Dear Friends,

In Naomi Lieber's otherwise astute assessment of the significance of St.
Crispin's Day to H5, she writes: "the performance of _Julius Caesar_
coincided with St. Michael's day (Michaelmas), October 10." If I'm not
mistaken, Thomas Platter's memoir cites a performance of JC on 21
September, the official date of an Autumnal Equinox which had actually
occurred on 11 September due to the flaw in Caesar's Julian calendar
(which England followed until 1751).

Best,
Steve

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From:           Andrew Gurr <
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Date:           Monday, 24 Mar 1997 11:31:23 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 8.0378  Re: St. Crispin's Day
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0378  Re: St. Crispin's Day

I'm puzzled by Naomi Liebler's ascription of the launch of Julius Caesar
to Michaelmas 1599. Thomas Platter saw it on 21 September. As for
Crispin's day, Shakespeare wrote Henry V in more of a hurry and with
more distractions than usual-it has several oddities and
discontinuities.  The one thing we can be sure of is that he used
Holinshed closely, and Holinshed does highlight the day of the battle as
(quote) the five and twenieth of October in the yeare 1415, being then
fridaie, and the feast of Crispine and Crispinian, a daie faire and
fortunate to the English, but most sorrowfull and unluckie to the French
(unquote). We should be grateful that he did not emphasise that it was a
Friday.

Andrew Gurr.

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From:           Sean K. Lawrence <
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Date:           Sunday, 23 Mar 1997 10:52:59 -0800
Subject: 8.0379  Re: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0379  Re: Ideology

>It would be difficult to discuss seriously the question of ideology if
>you are content to remain at this purely empirical level.  At the moment
>we seem to be talking completely at cross purposes.

And it would be impossible to discuss seriously the question of
aesthetics, if you are content to remain at this purely political
level.

What do you mean by "empirical" anyway?  If you mean "prompted by a
certain Humean scepticism, untempered by Kantian idealism" then I
suppose I'd be honoured to plead guilty.

Cheers,
Sean
 

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