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Re: Ideology
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.0476.  Saturday, 19 April 1997.

[1]     From:   Chris Stroffolino <
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        Date:   Friday, 18 Apr 1997 10:13:39 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0470 Re: Ideology

[2]     From:   David M Richman <
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        Date:   Friday, 18 Apr 1997 11:00:43 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.0473 Re: Ideology

[3]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Friday, 18 Apr 1997 13:09:35 -0400
        Subj:   SHK 8.0470  Re: Ideology


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From:           Chris Stroffolino <
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Date:           Friday, 18 Apr 1997 10:13:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 8.0470 Re: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0470 Re: Ideology

Dear Phyllis Rackin--

Is there such a thing as a question that isn't rhetorical?

And if so, is this question one of them?

And what do you mean by changing your mind?

Can people be set in their ways TO change their mind? (I.e. my habit is
to break habits).

Or is this the "madness of discourse, the bi-fold authority" too busy
setting up cause against "itself" to speak for itself?

And If this attitude is valorized as "negative capability?" some of the
times, it still can be "madness" other times?

And maybe the "mind" is nothing BUT change?

But then we have the idea of constant change?

Oh, PARADOXICA EPIDEMICA?

What do we mean by CHANGE?

A once and for all change?

IS such change the point?

Well, I don't know, but I just wanted to tell people that your daughter,
Ethel, is a good poet (though I haven't seen her work on the page yet,
just on the stage)....

Chris Stroffolino

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From:           David M Richman <
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Date:           Friday, 18 Apr 1997 11:00:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 8.0473 Re: Ideology
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.0473 Re: Ideology

This is an attempt to speak to the non-rhetorical question whether this
ideology discussion on *The Winter's Tale* has changed minds.  I believe
my thinking has been broadened and enriched.  I have tended to
concentrate on that last scene's wonder and art, and on he emotional
response it seems to elicit.  "I like your silence.  It the more shows
off / Your wonder."  I had not forgotten, but I had subordinated, the
loss, the done and irreparable damage done by Leontes to Hermione, his
children, and his kingdom.  The debate, at its best, has encouraged me,
like Mr. Kiernander, seriously to contemplate directing this play once
again; and seeking a staging that makes clear the difficult  balance
between crime and forgiveness.  Forgiveness, of a sort, there is, I
think-and I still believe that a powerful emotional response, of which
wonder is an element, and which Mr. Hawkins describes, is appropriate.
But this response need not and should not exclude a materially and
historically informed sense of Leontes' political and personal crimes.
The play is a complex tale of difficult forgiveness, and he debate has
taught me something about how very difficult that forgiveness is.  I
haven't decided yet how I would stage that last scene, but when I do,
the decisions will be informed by he debate.

David Richman

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Friday, 18 Apr 1997 13:09:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Ideology
Comment:        SHK 8.0470  Re: Ideology

Dear Robin,

I was sorry to hear that you'd been ravished. It confirms one's worst
fears. But how generous of you to share the experience with us. No, I am
not tone-deaf. I sometimes wish I were.

Terry
 

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