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Re: Assorted Hamlet and Hamlet Query
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.1111.  Monday, 3 November 1997.

[1]     From:   Abigail Quart <
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        Date:   Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 10:49:14 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.1104  Re: Womb/Tomb

[2]     From:   Gregory C. Koch <
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        Date:   Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 15:25:04 -0500
        Subj:   Re: Hamlet/Ophelia/Laertes

[3]     From:   Joanne Walen <
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        Date:   Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 19:03:16 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Gertrude and Hamlet Query


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From:           Abigail Quart <
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Date:           Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 10:49:14 -0500
Subject: 8.1104  Re: Womb/Tomb
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.1104  Re: Womb/Tomb

Virgil is late.

The ancient Egyptians used the word 'mut' (hieroglphic: vulture) to mean
both 'mother' and 'death.'

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From:           Gregory C. Koch <
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Date:           Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 15:25:04 -0500
Subject:        Re: Hamlet/Ophelia/Laertes

>Laertes swears he'll kill Hamlet even in church. Sounds good. Bold.
>But

His followers wanted him king.  No one wants a wuss, king.  He had
threatened the king! - by god, isn't that brave enough for you?  Today,
a parallel to threatening the President.

>relationship with her.  It's somewhat witty, given the blazon's
>function, that both of them have arguably "put her in her grave"
>through their actions.

Don't think so. Not her brother Laertes.

>> does Hamlet feel that his romantic love for Ophelia is threatened by her
>> own brother?

Because he wants to slay Hamlet.  Isn't that reason enough?

>studying literature (where the atmosphere was, if anything, pruder and
>more conservative than here in Iran), I even find some of the

The right thing to say, I'm sure...

>brother *should* be jealous of his sister, it is a perfectly
>acceptable

Especially when he has designs on the throne himself and knows her
lover's favored, knows he skewered his father, knows he drove her to
madness...

Hamlet was going through a classic identity crisis, namely, he knew his
chances for the throne were in the dogheap when he knew the "truth,"
that he had to fulfill its end - without choice.  Something really to
get down about.  It was a difficult family situation, you must admit -
for an Eastern or Western family.  Remember when the king read Hamlet's
letter to Laertes?...  Laertes asks "Know you the hand?"  The king
replies, "'Tis Hamlet's character: - 'Naked,' - And in a postscript
here, he says, 'alone.' Can you advise me?"...

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Date:           Sunday, 2 Nov 1997 19:03:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Gertrude and Hamlet Query

I received the following from a college-student friend and put it out as
a request to the list for resources. If any would care to reply, you can
send to me off list, unless this is a topic of interest to all. Many
thanks.

Joanne Walen
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I'm writing you to see if you can help me.  I am in a class in college
called Theatre Appreciation, and I'm doing a research paper for my term
project.  My topic is the different interpretations of the relationship
between Gertrude and Hamlet.  My interest was piqued this summer at the
RSC by Adrian Noble's production, because it was totally different than
the production with Mel Gibson.  I still haven't seen the new movie with
Kenneth Branaugh, but I will as soon as possible.

I was wondering if you could help me find resources so that my paper
will be a success.
 

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