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Re: Location of Old Globe
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 8.1153.  Saturday, 15 November 1997.

[1]     From:   David Joseph Kathman <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 1997 12:57:33 -0600 (CST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?

[2]     From:   Paul Nelsen <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:19 -0400
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[3]     From:   Jason Rosenbaum <
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        Date:   Friday, 14 Nov 1997 17:54:38 -0500 (EST)
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From:           David Joseph Kathman <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 1997 12:57:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?

Laura Fargas wrote:

> Could someone tell me whether the old Globe was north or south of Maid
> Lane?  The books I have available seem to be very firm on the point --
> both ways.  I would appreciate learning the current state of the
> scholarship.

The Globe was south of Maid Lane.  This was a matter of considerable
controversy early in this century: quite a bit of evidence seemed to
indicate that the Globe was south of Maid (or Maiden) Lane, but then in
1910 or so Charles Wallace found a series of legal documents which quite
clearly stated that it was *north* of Maid Lane.  There was a lively
debate in the scholarly literature for more than a decade, and then in
1921 W. W. Braines published *The Site of the Globe Playhouse
Southewark* (with an expanded edition in 1924).  Through a painstaking
examination of all the known historical evidence, Braines showed that
all of Wallace's documents which described the Globe as north of Maid
Lane ultimately were copied from the description in a single original
document (a common practice at the time, especially in legal documents
involving property).  He further demonstrated that every single compass
point in this original description was mistakenly *reversed* from what
it should have been-that is, what should have been "north" was rendered
as "south", and vice versa.  This probably resulted from a legal clerk
(or somebody like that) having a map oriented the wrong way when he was
writing the description.  Braines' conclusions were generally accepted,
and when the remains of the Globe were discovered in the late 1980s, it
turned out that he was exactly right: the Globe was *south* of Maid
Lane, not north.  A nice example of an archeological find confirming an
elaborately argued case of scholarly deduction.

Dave Kathman

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From:           Paul Nelsen <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:19 -0400
Subject: 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?

Laura Fargas asks, "Could someone tell me whether the old Globe was
north or south of Maid Lane?"

The first and second Globes were situated to the south of Maid (also
Maiden) Lane-now known as Park Street-on the South Bank of the Thames.
The Rose (just a stone's throw down the lane) stood on the north side,
closer to the river.

Evidence presented by W.W. Braines in his 1924 essay "The Site of the
Globe Playhouse" put a hush on most disputation about the precise
location of Shakespeare's playhouse.  In 1989, archeological excavation
of a tiny portion of the site authoritatively squelched any remaining
doubts.

The remains of the Globe's foundations are still there-to the south of
the former Maid Lane-awaiting further archeological investigation.

Paul Nelsen
Marlboro College

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From:           Jason Rosenbaum <
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Date:           Friday, 14 Nov 1997 17:54:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?
Comment:        Re: SHK 8.1150  Q: Location of Old Globe?

Location maps of the original (and new) Globe Theatre can be seen on the
website of the International Shakespeare Globe Centre-go directly there
with:
www.reading.ac.uk/globe/data-base/images/globe/archaeology/southwark1.html
 

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