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Re: PBS Show; Shakespeare and the King James Bible
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.0343  Monday, 13 April 1998.

[1]     From:   Simon Malloch <
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        Date:   Friday, 10 Apr 1998 23:41:45 +0800
        Subj:   Re: PBS Show & Shakespeare's life

[2]     From:   Albert Misseldine <
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        Date:   Friday, 10 Apr 1998 12:47:52 -0400
        Subj:   Shakespeare and the King James Bible

[3]     From:   Werner Habicht <
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        Date:   Friday, 10 Apr 1998 23:00:42 +0200
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.0335  Re: PBS Show, King James Bible

[4]     From:   Hardy M. Cook <
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        Date:   Monday, April 13, 1998
        Subj:   Shakespeare and the Bible


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From:           Simon Malloch <
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Date:           Friday, 10 Apr 1998 23:41:45 +0800
Subject:        Re: PBS Show & Shakespeare's life

Peter T. Hadorn remarks:

> I find that I do have to do a lot of damage control with my students
> about the many things they hear about Shakespeare.  I constantly have to
> remind them that there are many things about Shakespeare that we simply
> do not know.

This,  to me, would suggest grounds for introducing into Shakespearean
courses a lecture or two on the poet's life,  the problems one faces
with the paucity of evidence,  and the consequent problems in applying
that evidence to his life in general,  not to mention his plays and
poetry.  Indeed,  it was something that I missed when first introduced
to Shakespeare.  "Sorely missed" I now say,  having read Schoenbaum.

But on the other hand,  as we all know,  it is not conducive to "good
taste" to talk about authors and authorship, even if it were to save
students from believing what they read in books like *The Shakespeare
Conspiracy*, and then trying to find traces in the plays, or more often
trying to make the plays fit the theory.

Simon Malloch.

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From:           Albert Misseldine <
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Date:           Friday, 10 Apr 1998 12:47:52 -0400
Subject:        Shakespeare and the King James Bible

Peter Hadon asks how the rumor that Shakespeare wrote part of the King
James Bible got started. I don't know that, but I remember in the
Autobiography of Malcolm X, Malcolm comes up with this idea: the fact
that Shakespeare wasn't asked to help with the translation of the King
James Bible proves that he didn't write his plays, because if he was
such a good writer, why didn't the King ask him? Maybe the rumor spun
off from that?

Albert Misseldine

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Date:           Friday, 10 Apr 1998 23:00:42 +0200
Subject: 9.0335  Re: PBS Show, King James Bible
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.0335  Re: PBS Show, King James Bible

Rudyard Kipling may have been the first (was he?)  to imagine
Shakespeare as a co-translator of the King James Bible. It would be a
pity to miss his story "Proofs of Holy Writ" (1932); for, however
"wrong" it may be, it tells us a good deal about - among other things -
the art of translation.

Werner Habicht

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From:           Hardy M. Cook <
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Date:           Monday, April 13, 1998
Subject:        Shakespeare and the Bible

The subject of Shakespeare authorship of come of the King James Bible
was discussed in 1994 and again in 1996 on SHAKSPER.  I send the command
SEARCH SHAKSPER BIBLE to 
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  and got back 101
hits.  I have edited the file I received in return to show the relevant
articles.

Item #   Date   Time  Recs   Subject
------   ----   ----  ----   -------
002168 94/04/02 07:58   20   SHK 5.0300 Q: Shakespeare and the King
James Bible
002169 94/04/03 07:22   56   SHK 5.0301 Re: Shakespeare and the King
James Bible
002179 94/04/05 08:27  130   SHK 5.0310 Re: Limericks; KJV; AYI
Weather/Music;
003914 96/01/29 13:00   56   SHK 7.0079 Qs: Theatrical Working
Conditions; Shakespeare & the Bible
003917 96/01/30 09:32   63   SHK 7.0082 Re: Psalm 46
003921 96/02/01 14:48   49   SHK 7.0086 Re: Shakespeare and the Bible
003926 96/02/03 11:47   37   SHK 7.0091 Re: Shakespeare and the Bible
003933 96/02/09 11:26  145   SHK 7.0098 Re: Cross-Dressing; Audio Oth;
Bible;
003944 96/02/13 09:53  179   SHK 7.0109 Abridged MND; CD ROM;
Shakespeare and the Bible
003954 96/02/15 11:56  217   SHK 7.0119 Re: Hamlet, Ophelia, Horatio,
and Characters
003957 96/02/15 12:19  204   SHK 7.0122 Re: John Bulwer; The KJV Bible
003966 96/02/20 09:05   53   SHK 7.0131 Qs: American Festival Theatre;
John Porter
003967 96/02/20 09:07   49   SHK 7.0132 Shakespeare and KJV--and
Cranmer's Psalms

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>>> Item #2168 (2 Apr 1994 07:58) - SHK 5.0300 Q: Shakespeare and the King James Bible

I heard a rumor recently that Shakespeare may have had something to do
with
the creation of the King James Bible.  This seemed unlikely to me but,
not
                               ^^^^^
being a biblical scholar (or even much of a Shakespearean one), I had no

>>> Item #2169 (3 Apr 1994 07:22) - SHK 5.0301 Re: Shakespeare and the King James Bible
There is a cipher regarding Shakespeare's connection, or rather,
translation
of the Bible or his contribution to it. The King James Bible was
completed
       ^^^^^
when Shakespeare was 46 years old. If you go to the 46 Psalm and go to
the 46
***************
word "Selah" which may be interpreted as "spear". Allegedly, this
"spear" is
not in the original Bible and is an interpolation. Hence, by this
cipher,
                    ^^^^^
as with many Shakespeare ciphers, we know that Shakespeare translated
the
Bible or some part of it. If you believe this, well we have a little
Bridge
^^^^^
in New York...
**************
Dana Goldstein asks whether Shakespeare had anything to do with the
creation
of the King James Bible--I'm no expert on the creation of that work, but
                  ^^^^^
here's a bit of curious information imparted to me by a colleague
several
***************
In 1610, the year before the Bible was completed, Shakespeare would have
                             ^^^^^
been 46 years old.  Turn to Psalm 46 in the King James, and count,
first,

>>> Item #3914 (29 Jan 1996 13:00) - SHK 7.0079 Qs: Theatrical Working Conditions; Shakespeare & the Bible

Just read Anthony Burgess' speculations on Shakespeare's possible
contributions
to the King James Bible in 1610.  (He suggests the 46th Psalm, the 46th
word of
                  ^^^^^
which is "shake" and the 46th word from the end of is "spear", was
written by

>>> Item #3917 (30 Jan 1996 09:32) - SHK 7.0082 Re: Psalm 46

>Just read Anthony Burgess' speculations on Shakespeare's possible contributions
>to the King James Bible in 1610.  (He suggests the 46th Psalm, the 46th word of
                   ^^^^^
>which is "shake" and the 46th word from the end of is "spear", was written by
***************
heard this story to a different tune.  The speculation I heard implied
that the
publishers of this edition of the King James Bible meant the 46th Psalm
as a
                                             ^^^^^
tribute to Shakespeare.  Further evidence of this stems from the fact
that
 

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