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Re: Plagiarism
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1310  Thursday, 17 December 1998.

[1]     From:   Simon Malloch <
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        Date:   Thursday, 17 Dec 1998 00:12:55 +0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism

[2]     From:   Billy Houck <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 16 Dec 1998 13:54:05 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism


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From:           Simon Malloch <
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Date:           Thursday, 17 Dec 1998 00:12:55 +0800
Subject: 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism

"[...] Some observations: 1) posting work by students (including
graduate students) may not be a very good idea."

If, David,  you refer to students posting work on a discussion list such
as this one,  then I agree wholeheartedly that it is "not a good idea."
I do not particularly object to the discussion of ideas on which they
may be working, but I would advise against posting a draft or "chunks"
of their work for comment;  I suppose,  though,  that it could be hard
to spot the difference in some cases between a "chunk" and a
"discussion".

Still, I would go further and say that students should not be allowed to
post queries asking for directions with regards to research, i.e.  "can
anyone refer me to books about..."  I have noticed over the last few
years a number of posts of this nature,  some of which are very basic
and clearly demonstrate that the student has not done even the most
minimal research.  If students cannot use the library nor scan
bibliographies then they should learn how to do so.  Asking for such
directions is not far off buying an essay from the internet.  List
members are not here to do research for students, not for anyone for
that matter.

Simon Malloch.

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From:           Billy Houck <
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Date:           Wednesday, 16 Dec 1998 13:54:05 EST
Subject: 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1303  Re: Plagiarism

In a message dated 12/16/98 10:50:43 AM, Sally Schultz wrote:

>but in order to satisfy my own
>personal code of morals, principles, and ethics, I will only give this
>to college professors, and not high school teachers. Sorry.

 >-Sally Schutz

So it's OK for high school students to cheat but not when they get to
college? Do you think people suddenly become moral and honorable when
they turn 18?  Don't worry, Sally. It's much easier to tell when a high
school student is plagiarizing. You haven't betrayed your kind.

Billy Houck
Mean High School Teacher
 

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