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Re: Veteran's Day
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1107  Monday, 9 November 1998.

[1]     From:   Gabriel Egan <
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        Date:   Sunday, 8 Nov 1998 10:17:30 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Veteran's Day

[2]     From:   William Proctor Williams <
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        Date:   Sunday, 08 Nov 1998 10:13:50 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1102 Veteran's Day

[3]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Sunday, 8 Nov 1998 13:25:25 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 9.1102 Veteran's Day


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From:           Gabriel Egan <
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Date:           Sunday, 8 Nov 1998 10:17:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Veteran's Day

Carol Barton knows what a veteran is:

> He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the
> darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest
> testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known.

Passing quickly over the hilarious image of someone opposing darkness
with a sword-give that vet a flashlight before he puts someone's eye
out-might I offer a word of lily-livered objection to the pleonasm
"finest, greatest nation"? George Bernard Shaw observed that patriotism
is the egotistical conviction that a particular country is great because
oneself was born there. Most of Barton's offensive drivel about serving
the military-industrial death machine concerned Vietnam and the Gulf War
with just a glance at Nazi Germany. One can distinguish between armed
struggles which improve the world-the ANC against the white
supremacists, the IRA against the British colonial presence-and those
like Vietnam and the Gulf War which murdered hundreds of thousands of
innocent civilians for no good reason.

I propose Veteran's Day be scrapped and in its place we have an Innocent
Victims Day, with a wreath-laying ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknown
Civilian.

Gabriel Egan

PS As one who has been repeatedly accused of digressing from the agreed
topics of SHAKSPER, I'd like to see an explanation of the relevance of
Barton's posting to Shakespeare.

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From:           William Proctor Williams <
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Date:           Sunday, 08 Nov 1998 10:13:50 -0600
Subject: 9.1102 Veteran's Day
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1102 Veteran's Day

I feel, myself, that a much more appropriate thing to read over on 11
November would be the St. Crispin's Day speech from +Henry V+

WPW

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Sunday, 8 Nov 1998 13:25:25 -0500
Subject: Veteran's Day
Comment:        SHK 9.1102 Veteran's Day

Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC ought to be ashamed of himself. The
claim that  'It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us
freedom of the press' strikes me as not only laughable but downright
dangerous in its assumptions.

T. Hawkes
 

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