1998

Bloom's New Shakespeare Book

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1036  Saturday, 24 October 1998.

From:           Simon Malloch <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 23:39:02 +0800
Subject:        Bloom's New Shakespeare Book

Any comments on Bloom's *Shakespeare: the Invention of the Human* would
be greatly appreciated. I am unable - here in Australia - to get a look
at it just yet.

Many thanks,
Simon Malloch.

Re: Evil; Sher's R3; Ogburn

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1035  Saturday, 24 October 1998.

[1]     From:   John Drakakis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:56:13 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 9.1023  Re: Evil

[2]     From:   Penelope Rixon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:14:22 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1022  Richards

[3]     From:   Tom Clayton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 17:11:54
        Subj:   RE: SHK 9.1031  Charlton Ogburn


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From:           John Drakakis <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:56:13 +0100
Subject: 9.1023  Re: Evil
Comment:        RE: SHK 9.1023  Re: Evil

Interesting play Gabriel Egan's been reading.  Is it by Shakespeare?  If
so where can I get a copy?

John Drakakis

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From:           Penelope Rixon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:14:22 -0000
Subject: 9.1022  Richards
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1022  Richards

I don't think Antony Sher's Richard III was ever put on video, for which
I'm thankful. It was stunning in the theatre (all four times that I saw
it!), partly because it really exploited the relationship between
performers and audience in a confined space, and it's unlikely that you
could capture that on film.  It would be a pity to preserve it in an
inferior version.

Penny Rixon
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From:           Tom Clayton <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 17:11:54
Subject: 9.1031  Charlton Ogburn
Comment:        RE: SHK 9.1031  Charlton Ogburn

A generous sentiment wittily expressed. May he rest in peace and there
be others like him to follow. But not too many.

Tom

Re: Park Honan's Sh.

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1033  Saturday, 24 October 1998.

[1]     From:   William Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 10:12:24 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

[2]     From:   David Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:55:11 GMT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

[3]     From:   Penelope Rixon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 15:05:21 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

[4]     From:   W. L. Godshalk <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 13:11:29 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.


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From:           William Williams <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 10:12:24 -0400
Subject: 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

Today's Times (London) carried a review of Park Honan's book so I assume
OUP has published it.

WPW

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From:           David Lindley <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:55:11 GMT
Subject: 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

> Amazon.com just wrote to say that the publication of Park Honan's
> <italic>Shakespeare</italic> has been cancelled. They give no reason,
> and I wonder if Oxford has indeed cancelled a book that was to be
> published at the end of this month. The books must be ready, and I'd
> love to get a copy, if only for curiosity's sake.

Odd, since it's been reviewed here already, and when I saw Park Honan
the other day (he's a former colleague) he made no mention of it's being
withdrawn!

David Lindley
School of English
University of Leeds

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From:           Penelope Rixon <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 15:05:21 -0000
Subject: 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

I was in Books Etc in London's Oxford Street half an hour ago, and the
place was awash with copies, so the problem obviously hasn't affected
the UK.

Penny Rixon
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From:           W. L. Godshalk <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 13:11:29 -0400
Subject: 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1030  Re: Park Honan's Sh.

Emma Smith tells me that Honan's book is available from Blackwell's, and
their online bookstore lists the book as "available."  I placed an order
for the book with problem. So perhaps Amazon.com has been misinformed.
Oxford UP has not yet responded to my request for information.

Yours, Bill Godshalk

Re: Puppet Query

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1034  Saturday, 24 October 1998.

[1]     From:   Sara Vandenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 08:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query

[2]     From:   Richard A Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 11:41:46 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query

[3]     From:   Michael Friedman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 11:57:54 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query


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From:           Sara Vandenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 08:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 9.1028  Puppet Query
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query

Jonson's Bartholomew Fair is a good place to start.

Sara van den Berg

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From:           Richard A Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 11:41:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 9.1028  Puppet Query
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query

See Scott Shershow's book on the subject (Cornell UP).

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From:           Michael Friedman <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 11:57:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 9.1028  Puppet Query
Comment:        Re: SHK 9.1028  Puppet Query

Frances,

Scott Shershow published a fine article on puppet theater as it relates
(I think I remember correctly) to *Bartholomew Fair* sometime in the
early 90's.  The MLA on CD-rom would give you the full citation.

                        Michael Friedman

Shrews Behaving Badly

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 9.1032  Saturday, 24 October 1998.

From:           Stevie Simkin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 22 Oct 1998 14:29:23 +0100
Subject:        Re:

Last night I took a group of undergraduate students taking a level 2
module called Shakespeare and Ideology to English Touring Theatre's
production of The Taming of the Shrew, currently touring to Poole on the
south coast of England.

An interesting pre-show talk by the director, Stephen Unwin, established
that he had given it a 1998, "up to the second" (his words) setting - in
this case, drawing on certain current stereotypes - what we would call
"Essex girl" for Kate (superficial, uncultured, loud), and the perhaps
more accessible notion of "new money, no culture" stereotype for the
general tone; there was a distinct feel of "loaded"/"new lad" culture
around amongst Kate's suitors (to translate, in a nutshell, new lad = a
retreat to the beer guzzling, sexist pig persona of old).

The show itself had energy and the kind of clarity in the story-telling
that is ETT's great strength.  The whole production had an ironic tone,
and it was clear that by the end Petruchio and Kate had come to some
sort of "arrangement", and that we were not to take the submission at
face value (although, confusingly, the director had earlier referred to
the Essex girl stereotype again, talking about the kind of wife who is
content with the big house, flash clothes, two holidays a year lifestyle
and accepts the little woman role as a matter of course).  The bridge
between the fiery Kate and the Kate who fondly punched and cuddled her
husband by the time of the sun and moon scene was either unclear or
non-existent, however.

My conclusions about the production were these:

a)  today, either you play the Shrew as tragedy, or you play it
ironically. There are no alternatives, it seems to me (a number of
people who stayed behind for the after-show chat made the point about
the play "not being PC").

b)  Stephen Unwin had attempted to sidestep the way the text affirms
patriarchy
by setting it in a section of society that was either post-feminist, or
which feminism had passed by.

c)  the whole thing struck me as "William Shakespeare writes Men
Behaving Badly"
(my apologies again to those who may not be familiar with this reference
point MBB is a popular sitcom featuring a couple of "new lads").  You
could laugh at it because the show was liberally coated with irony, but
you still had all this offensive, misogynistic stuff rolling off the
stage at you.

An interesting experiment, all in all, but I was left wondering if this
is one of those plays that finally isn't really worth reviving.  Any
thoughts, anyone?

Stevie Simkin

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