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Re: Shakespeare in Love
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.0286  Friday, 19 February 1999.

[1]     From:   Jonathan Hope <
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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 14:20:14 +0000 (GMT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love 'It's a mystery'

[2]     From:   Kate Welch <
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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 13:34:31 GMT
        Subj:   Re: Shakespeare in Love

[3]     From:   Brian Haylett <
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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 17:37:10 -0000
        Subj:   Re: Shakespeare in Love

[4]     From:   Douglas Lanier <
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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 15:16:11 -0500
        Subj:   RE: Shakespeare in Love

[5]     From:   Drew Whitehead <
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        Date:   Friday, 19 Feb 1999 08:36:35 +1000 (GMT+1000)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love


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From:           Jonathan Hope <
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Date:           Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 14:20:14 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love 'It's a mystery'
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love 'It's a mystery'

In addition to Richard Dutton's comments about this, posters of a
certain age will recognise it as a line from one of Toyah Wilcox's punk
classics.  The same Toyah Wilcox whose boobs graced Jarman's Tempest
when she played Miranda (it was essential to the plot).  And the same
Toyah Wilcox who now does voices for the Teletubbies.

The Teletubbies studio is just outside Stratford, which prompted Radio
Times to put them on the front cover just over a year ago with the
headline, 'Bigger than Shakespeare'.

That Tom Stoppard aint half a clever bloke.

Jonathan Hope
Middlesex University

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From:           Kate Welch <
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Date:           Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 13:34:31 GMT
Subject:        Re: Shakespeare in Love

Thomas Larque wrote:

>I haven't seen the film yet, but read a review which gave a line from a
>boatman (echoing the traditional taxi-driver).
>> "I had that Marlowe in the back of my boat once".
>
>I don't know how the line is delivered in the film, but might this be
>the pun that Hardy was looking for?

The line is actually "I had that Christopher Marlowe in my boat once".
This is how it appears on page 37 of the screenplay (Faber, 1999) and
how it was delivered in the film. It was misquoted by several careless
reviewers.

Kate Welch
Shakespeare Institute Library
Stratford-upon-Avon
Warwickshire

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From:           Brian Haylett <
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Date:           Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 17:37:10 -0000
Subject:        Re: Shakespeare in Love

>"I had that Marlowe in the back of my boat once".

>I don't know how the line is delivered in the film, but might this be
>the pun that Hardy was looking for?

>No I don't think so.  The line was delivered as yet another pun on the
>Marlowe-Shakespeare rivalry.  The boatman recognizes him as an actor
>while he is trying to chase down Vioa/Thomas and says it in a boasting
>sort of "I know someone famous" manner.

This phenomenon of British life led to the true story often told by
Peter Ustinov (I think) of the taxi driver who said to him: "I had that
Bertrand Russell in the back of my taxi once and I said to him 'Here,
Bertie, what's it all about then?' And, do you know, he couldn't tell
me."

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From:           Douglas Lanier <
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Date:           Thursday, 18 Feb 1999 15:16:11 -0500
Subject:        RE: Shakespeare in Love

A while back several SHAKSPERians asked about the availability of the
script for SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE.  It has just been published by Miramax
Books/Hyperion in the US and by Faber in the UK under the title
SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE: A SCREENPLAY by Marc Norman and Tom Stoppard.

There is another movie tie-in book by a very similar title, SHAKESPEARE
IN LOVE: THE LOVE POETRY OF WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, which is a collection
of Shakespeare's verse mixed in with snippets and photos from the
movie.  Make sure you order the one you want, since it's easy to mix the
two up (from a marketing standpoint, precisely the point, I suppose).

For those interested in ordering by computer: for some reason, the
script does not show up on the Amazon.com site in the US, but it does
show up on the Amazon.co.uk site.  (This may have been corrected by the
time you read this.)  You can order the US edition at
www.barnesandnoble.com for 20% off.

I'm not associated with any of the above businesses.

Cheers,
Douglas Lanier
University of New Hampshire

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From:           Drew Whitehead <
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Date:           Friday, 19 Feb 1999 08:36:35 +1000 (GMT+1000)
Subject: 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0282 Re: Shakespeare in Love

>The
>case which comes to mind is the one in which Superman proved that he was
>stronger than Captain Marvel (or at least had better lawyers).  I think
>that there was evidence in that case that actual text was appropriated
>in a few instances.  Captain Marvel has since come back to life, but
>only because Superman bought him.

Never did I expect to find a reference to either Superman or Captain
Marvel in these pages.  Well done Larry Weiss!

Drew Whitehead
 

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