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Re: Reception of Venus and Adonis
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.0308  Tuesday, 23 February 1999.

[1]     From:   Katherine Scheil <
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        Date:   Monday, 22 Feb 1999 14:40:18 -0500
        Subj:   RE: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

[2]     From:   Mike Sirofchuck <
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        Date:   Monday, 22 Feb 1999 11:00:30 -0900
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

[3]     From:   David Kathman <
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        Date:   Monday, 22 Feb 1999 19:08:04 -0600
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[4]     From:   Andrew Murphy <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 23 Feb 1999 09:13:40 +0000
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From:           Katherine Scheil <
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Date:           Monday, 22 Feb 1999 14:40:18 -0500
Subject: 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis
Comment:        RE: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

Sasha Roberts has an article on the reception of Venus and Adonis for
women readers.

Katherine Scheil

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From:           Mike Sirofchuck <
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Date:           Monday, 22 Feb 1999 11:00:30 -0900
Subject: 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

I am planning to "cover" Venus and Adonis/Rape of Lucrece/Lover's
Complaint/Phoenix and the Turtle with my high school Shakespeare class.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions/warnings for teaching this material to
teenagers?  Thanks.

Mike Sirofchuck
Kodiak High School

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From:           David Kathman <
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Date:           Monday, 22 Feb 1999 19:08:04 -0600
Subject: 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

Jack Heller wrote:

>I am new to this list, so if this repeats any previous inquiry, please
>excuse me. In Thomas Middleton's play A Mad World, My Masters, a
>husband, Harebrain, forbids his wife to have a copy of Venus and Adonis
>and Hero and Leander because, he thinks, those poems will incite her
>lust. So, Mistress Harebrain hides copies of these poems in her skirt
>(with all puns and bawdy implications intended). I am curious about
>other references which suggest that these poems had a particular erotic
>appeal to women readers, especially if such references come from early
>modern women writers themselves. Any suggestions?

You might want to take a look at Richard Halpern's article "'Pining
Their Maws': Female Readers and the Erotic Ontology of the Text in
Shakespeare's Venus and Adonis," in the collection Venus and Adonis:
Critical Essays, edited by Philip C. Kolin (Garland, 1997).  Halpern
discusses the reference in Middleton's A Mad World, My Masters that
you've cited, as well as several others.   In Thomas Heywood's The Fair
Maid of the Exchange (1607), Bowdler tries to seduce Mall Berry by
reading from V&A; John Davies' Paper's Complaint (1610-11) says of V&A
that "the coyest Dames / In private read it for their Closet-games: /
For, sooth to say, the Lines so draw them on, / To the venerian
speculation, / That will they, nill they (if of flesh they bee) / They
will think of it, sith loose though is free;" in Thomas Cranley's The
Converted Courtezan (1639), V&A is one of the books in a courtesan's
library; and Richard Brathwait's The English Gentlewoman (1631) warns
women against reading the poem in the following words: "Venus and Adonis
are unfitting Consorts for a Ladies bosome.  Remove them timely from
you, if they ever had entertainment by you, lest, like the Snake in the
fable, they annoy you."

Dave Kathman

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From:           Andrew Murphy <
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Date:           Tuesday, 23 Feb 1999 09:13:40 +0000
Subject: 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0303 Early Reception of Venus and Adonis

Jack Heller might find it useful to look at the following article, which
includes some material on the reception of Venus and Adonis:

Katherine Duncan-Jones, 'Much Ado with Red and White: The Earliest
Readers of Shakespeare's Venus and Adonis', Review of English Studies,
XLIV (1993), pp. 479-501.

Cheers,
Andrew
 

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