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Re: Brush Up . . .
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.0110  Thursday, 21 January 1999.

[1]     From:   Cora Lee Wolfe <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 07:36:46 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.

[2]     From:   Cora Lee Wolfe <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 07:39:50 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.

[3]     From:   Cora Lee Wolfe <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 08:09:19 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

[4]     From:   Cora Lee Wolfe <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 08:31:16 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

[5]     From:   Robin Black <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 13:53:18 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

[6]     From:   Henry Griffy <
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        Date:   Thursday, 21 Jan 1999 02:01:48 -0600
        Subj:   RE: SHK 10.0089 Re: Brush Up Your Shakespeare

[7]     From:   Marilyn Bonomi <
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        Date:   Thursday, 21 Jan 1999 19:35:48 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .


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From:           Cora Lee Wolfe <
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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 07:36:46 -0700
Subject: 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.

 Pat Dolan <
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> And you'll note that I recognize that Lear was jerk addicted to hollow
> and damaging love affirmations.

And so are we addicted to love affirmation.  He "cares" so much that he
is going to protect us from the need to make any choices, ("Women should
not have to choose between a family and a career.") a risk free world,
(If you lose your job, by golly it's the government's responsibility to
train you for a new one.)  Last Thursday I heard him on PBS claiming to
be squarely behind limited government.  Tuesday he has 14 new ways the
government is going to protect us from the choices we make. "I thought
smoking was good for me."  Yeah.)

And I know the Republicans are no better.  In their rebuttal speech they
say first they are for limited government, personal freedom.  The rest
of the speech is how they are going to fight to make abortion illegal
and protect us from pornography on the internet.  My insurance went up
$50 in January.  Is it because the federal government passed a law that
said if they cover mastectomies they must cover reconstructive surgery.
We should praise the lord that they are busy with the impeachment.
They'll get less done and we'll all reap the benefits.

I know it's Shakespeare, but you started it.

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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 07:39:50 -0700
Subject: 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0099 Oh Geez, I can't resist.

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> By the way, does anyone else find the words "civil rights case" out of
> the mouths of Trent Lott, Bob Barr and Strom Thurmond a little odd?

I agree with the Democrats.  If you're trailer trash you don't deserve
civil rights.

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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 08:09:19 -0700
Subject: 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

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> >Would you mind explaining to me why it is inappropriate?
>
> I'd be happy to.

And very clearly, too.  Thank you.  And thank you for the "Brush up on
your Shakespeare."  It's a delight.

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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 08:31:16 -0700
Subject: 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

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> Tripp as Enobarbus with and Clinton as Antony (both JC and
> Antony&Cleopatra).

Some day I might get the confidence to write my own version of the
Clinton tragedy.  I see Tripp as one of the real victims. She testifies
in Vince Foster case about the missing documents and in the Paula Jones
case as well,  but has no hard evidence and gets pilloried for it.
She's subpoenaed and can clearly see what's coming.  This time she's
going to have a loaded gun.  First of all, she wants to vindicate
herself and sling back a little of the mud she's been dealt.  Secondly,
I firmly believe that she did not want to commit perjury.  Some of us
really do take that kind of thing seriously.  She knows if she testifies
truthfully she's opening herself up to attack, so she tapes Lewensky to
protect herself. She gets caught in the mud slide and Clinton stands on
the other side high and dry.

All this talk about friendship.  Is Lewensky a friend when she asks
Tripp to perjure herself? Why is it that it's the people who are trying
to do the right thing that are pilloried?  I know.  There's the book
deal, but I'd cover my back side there, too.  I'd like to see her legal
bills, and you can bet no one volunteers to help her.  She's not dimpled
and youthful.  We don't care about old bats and trailer trash in this
country.

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From:           Robin Black <
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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Jan 1999 13:53:18 EST
Subject: 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

>Speaking of William Shakespeare/Clinton, I recently heard an NPR host
>describe Linda Tripp as Iago....I think a more apt  comparison would be
>Tripp as Enobarbus with and Clinton as Antony (both JC and
>Antony&Cleopatra).

I'd hardly compare Tripp to Enobarbus; Enobarbus was conflicted by his
love of Antony and hate of what Antony was doing, but Tripp never, ever
has had any affection for Clinton.  Being familiar with Tripp's extreme
disdain for the incoming Clinton administration, which she saw as
degenerate when compared to the Bush administration in which she'd
previously worked, perhaps a more apt comparison would be to Tripp and
Malvolio?

Also, for those who are interested, Harold Bloom recently described
Kenneth Starr as "Polonius out the outside and Iago on the inside."  How
wonderfully accurate.

Robin Black

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Date:           Thursday, 21 Jan 1999 02:01:48 -0600
Subject: 10.0089 Re: Brush Up Your Shakespeare
Comment:        RE: SHK 10.0089 Re: Brush Up Your Shakespeare

Hmm.  Given the peculiarly noxious combination of anger, lust, and
monosyllabic, stream-of-conscious logic which this spectacle consists of
(not to mention the Southern gothic settings), I'd've thought this was
more an allusion to Faulkner than Shakespeare.

Henry Griffy

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From:           Marilyn Bonomi <
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Date:           Thursday, 21 Jan 1999 19:35:48 -0500
Subject: 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0101 Re: Brush Up . . .

Um... can we get back to Shakespeare and leave this immediate brouhaha
to subsequent ages to discuss on an Electronic Presidential Dissection
List?

Marilyn Bonomi

PS... Thanks for the lyrics!  I've never understood all of them from
listening!
 

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