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Re: Acting, Feeling and Meaning, and Writing
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.0493  Friday, 19 March 1999.

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        Date:   Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:36:27 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0483 Re: Acting from Experience

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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 09:30:10 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0481 Re: Feeling and Meaning

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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 10:42:11 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0482 Re: Writing from Experience

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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 09:57:22 -0800
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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 13:28:22 -0500 (EST)
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        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0462 Re: Writing from Experience

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        Date:   Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 16:17:41 CST6CDT
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From:           Karen Peterson-Kranz <
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Date:           Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:36:27 +1000
Subject: 10.0483 Re: Acting from Experience
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0483 Re: Acting from Experience

Todd Lidh wrote,

> After all, would there even be an authorship question if
>Shakespeare were known to have been well-educated and a visitor at
>court? I doubt it.

The matter of being "well educated" depends on how you define that
term.  No, he didn't go to university, but from what evidence exists of
grammar schools, such as the one in Stratford, I doubt that many of my
current crop of undergraduates would have been able to hack it in that
educational environment.  Also, like many other intelligent people, then
and now, Shakespeare seems to have read widely (as has been noted in
some other recent postings).  Reading need not occur only in the
classroom.

About visiting at court: check out Alvin Kernan's very enjoyable
*Shakespeare, the King's Playwright: Theater in the Stuart Court,
1603-1613.*  As the subtitle indicates, this concentrates on the later
years, but there is much that addresses Shakespeare's literary
production in the 1590s as well.

And about whether there would be an authorship question...you're
probably right.  No one argues about whether Marlowe or Sidney wrote
those works which have been attributed to them.  Or maybe they do and I
just am not aware of it?  Information, anyone?

Karen Peterson-Kranz
University of Guam

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From:           Sean Lawrence <
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Date:           Thursday, 18 Mar 1999 09:30:10 -0800
Subject: 10.0481 Re: Feeling and Meaning
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0481 Re: Feeling and Meaning

David patiently explains:

>My (Wittgensteinian) view is that words mean what they do because of the
>way in which human beings use them.  Such use is public, shared,
>imbricated in human "forms of life" which include feeling and reason.
>It's when 1) emotion and reason are reduced to inner feelings and images
>which are supposed to animate words in a philosophical theory, and 2)
>opponents in reaction abstract words from their use in everyday life in
>an attempt to get away from theory 1) that the debate becomes
>misleading.  My principle a) is meant to counter 1), while principle b)
>points out the problem with the opposing position 2).  They are in a
>sense both symptoms of the same philosophical problem.
>
>Hope this helps.

Actually, your response helps quite a lot.  And I do want to apologize
if my response seemed particularly barbed.  I also want to avoid the
scylla of Romanticism without falling into the charybdis of rationalism,
and was curious how you managed it, especially as discussion of "what it
means to be human" still seems largely informed by this dyad.

Would you agree that the whole reason/passion dispute relies on a
humanism that starts with the individual, either as Cartesian thinker or
Wordsworthian feeler?  And that if we locate the human in shared "forms
of life" the problem is overcome, though without turning language into
an inhuman mechanical system?

Cheers, and thanks for your response.
Se

 

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