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Re: Iago; Gower; Miola; Beard; Burton; Henry
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.0537  Thursday, 25 March 1999.

[1]     From:   Ed Taft <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 12:07:02 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Iago

[2]     From:   Ed Taft <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 12:15:51 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Henry

[3]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 13:00:53 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0521 Miola's Complaint

[4]     From:   Melissa Cook <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 18:48:14 -0800 (PST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0526 Re: Beard

[5]     From:   H. R. Greenberg <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 18:52:02 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0468 Q: Burton Hamlet

[6]     From:   Brian Haylett <
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        Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:47:23 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.0502 Re: Henry's Order to Kill His Prisoners


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From:           Ed Taft <
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Date:           Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 12:07:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Iago

Bill Godshalk usefully points out that sound often leads to sense,
especially on the stage. If Iago's name sounded like "Jago," and it
probably did, as far as I can tell, then there's another level of
allegory for you: the king himself-and performed at court in 1604, I
believe.  I'd only add that James was often full of himself:
Iago=Jago=Ego.

--Ed Taft

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From:           Ed Taft <
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Date:           Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 12:15:51 -0500 (EST)
Subject:        Henry

When I wrote that "Gower has the sequence of events wrong," I was
referring to which came first, the killing of the boys or the order to
kill the prisoners. Sorry for not being clearer about this point.  We
hear the order (and probably see it executed) in 4.6 as a response to
the French "throng" apparently ABOUT to attack. Then, in 4.7, we see the
dead boys. But Gower says that the king gave the order to kill the
prisoners as a response to the killing of the boys (and as a response to
his tent being looted). Gower seems wrong here, and my last post was an
attempt to explain why he might think what he does. The order in which
the boys were killed and then the tent looted doesn't really matter,
does it Larry? As you say, it could have happened either way. Gower's
interest in the king's "spoils" probably tells us something about his
character and his values.

--Ed Taft

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 13:00:53 -0500
Subject: 10.0521 Miola's Complaint
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0521 Miola's Complaint

John Cox wrote:

>Thanks to Robert Miola for a remarkably restrained and civil response to
>a fairly brutal injury.  Posting such a response on SHAKSPER strikes me
>as an appropriate way to deal with that kind of treatment-letting a wide
>audience know about it without being rancorous.  It's an effective way
>to get justice in the court of scholarly opinion, if nowhere else.

As someone who is used to outraged clients insisting on immediate and
Draconian relief (if nothing better is available), I, too, was struck by
Professor Miola's equanimity.

But, while such phlegmatism might be good for his blood pressure and
digestion, it does precious little to correct the injury.  I question
that posts to the list are an "effective way to get justice" even
limited to the "court of scholarly opinion."  How many of the readers of
the rip-off, now or into the mists of time, will be subscribers to this
list?  Wouldn't it be better to enjoin further distribution and recall
the infringing copies?

Larry Weiss

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From:           Melissa Cook <
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Date:           Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 18:48:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 10.0526 Re: Beard
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0526 Re: Beard

>>Viola's "I would not have it grow on my chin."
>>I have long wondered about this line.  Should the
>>emphasis be on "my" or
>>on "chin"?
>
>Or perhaps on "not" or "grow'?

In my opinion, the stress could be put almost anywhere depending on what
point you want to get across.   The emphasis being put on "I" would say
something like "someone else might want one to grow on my chin but I
sure as heck wouldn't."   Accenting "my" would be saying that a beard
growing on someone else's chin is fine but not on hers.  Stressing
"grow" would suggest that a beard would be better doing something else
with her chin than growing on it or, finally, "chin" to suggest she may
want a "beard" to grow somewhere else and I'll just leave that comment
where it lies.  Hope that wasn't too garbled.

-Melissa

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Date:           Wednesday, 24 Mar 1999 18:52:02 EST
Subject: 10.0468 Q: Burton Hamlet
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0468 Q: Burton Hamlet

Yes, the film of the so-called "rehearsal" Hamlet is available. I saw
the original production when it was simulcasted across America on closed
circuit TV in the mid-Sixties. The recording quality is not great, but
Burton is memorable. I picked up my copy in the bookstore at the
Stratford Ontario Shakespeare Festival last year. I'm sure you can find
it on the net. Try EBAY.com on the WWW inter alia.

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Date:           Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:47:23 -0000
Subject: 10.0502 Re: Henry's Order to Kill His Prisoners
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.0502 Re: Henry's Order to Kill His Prisoners

Mike Jensen says:  'I am not persuaded, but it is food for thought - and
I always appreciate a good meal.'

There's a relief. I had begun to think I was side-salad to Stephanie.
 

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