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Re: Old Bill
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1878  Wednesday, 3 November 1999.

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 02 Nov 1999 02:10:43 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1869 Re: Old Bill

[2]     From:   Karen Peterson-Kranz <
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        Date:   Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:54:52 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1869 Re: Old Bill

[3]     From:   Terence Hawkes <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 3 Nov 1999 06:17:40 -0500
        Subj:   SHK 10.1855 Re: Old Bill


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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Tuesday, 02 Nov 1999 02:10:43 -0500
Subject: 10.1869 Re: Old Bill
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1869 Re: Old Bill

Mike Jensen wrote:

>no one would stand on the stage and shout, "Slap Jiang and make him treat
>Chinese dissidents better.  Free Tibet!"

This line is usually cut anyway.

>Being a mock Elizabethan production, down to men playing female
>characters and a morris dance at the end, it could have certainly been
>more confrontational.  What if it had been set in Beijing, for example?
>Maybe in modern Chinese dress.  What if someone was dressed in Jiang's
>typical style?

Right, just the way Shakespeare's company did it.

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From:           Karen Peterson-Kranz <
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Date:           Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:54:52 +1000
Subject: 10.1869 Re: Old Bill
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1869 Re: Old Bill

Mike Jensen wrote

>Well, I assume Mark didn't know Jaing would be in attendance when the
>play was planned, and a production should not be shaped for one member
>of the audience anyway.

I think Mark Rylance did know...one of the news reports quoted him
saying that he had pondered whether to allow the visit, I believe.  (I
wonder if he would have been allowed to say no.)  I also recall that,
reportedly, Jiang did not see the entire play..."an excerpt from Julius
Caesar" or something to that effect was reported in at least one
source.  These may, of course, be misreportings.  However, it did sound
at the time that the production was in fact shaped for one member of the
audience.  Or perhaps that should read "an audience of one member," plus
assorted entourage personnel.

In a visit that seemed to have much to do with trade, I think it is
interesting that "Shakespeare" was offered to Jiang Zemin.  I believe it
was Sean who compared this to French cheeses.  The whole episode strikes
me as being as much an example of the use of "Shakespeare" as commodity
as it is an example of "Shakespeare" as marker for political tradition
and power.

Karen Peterson-Kranz
University of Guam

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From:           Terence Hawkes <
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Date:           Wednesday, 3 Nov 1999 06:17:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Old Bill
Comment:        SHK 10.1855 Re: Old Bill

Dear Sean Lawrence,

Thanks for your response. I think I was able to follow most of the
argument until the point where you started to refer to President Jiang
Zemin's visit as 'dissident'. The Golden Quill committee has been
informed.

T. Hawkes
 

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