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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1874 Tuesday, 2 November 1999. From: Dana Shilling <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 18:26:40 -0500 Subject: Olivia and the Beast I don't know why productions of TN usually make Olivia seem ridiculous from the outset. There's nothing inappropriate about the depth of her mourning for her brother-even if she weren't genuinely fond of him, she has certainly suffered many losses (both her parents) and is in serious practical difficulties as an affluent single woman. Some commentators have described her as a "giddy teen-ager" but clearly she is over 21 (or she would be Sir Toby's ward rather than merely his unwilling hostess). She has to marry SOMEBODY, and to turn down the most eligible bachelor in Illyria, she must REALLY dislike him. That made me think of Disney's "Beauty and the Beast," where Belle also turns down the most eligible local bachelor because he's a self-absorbed nitwit. In light of his hart-hunting propensities, I bet Orsino really does use antlers in all his decorating. Like Belle, Olivia encounters a love object whose external appearance is deceiving-unfortunately for Olivia, this does not work to her benefit. By the way, TN as a whole is a kind of effort to make the Sonnets plot come out better. "Cesario" uses conventional sonnetteering arguments (you're so gorgeous you have to marry and have kids). But in the Sonnets, the (male) object of the poet's ardor rebuffs the (male) poet. In TN, the (female) object of the poet's feigned ardor enthusiastically pursues the (female) who utters the compelling sentiments. I can imagine Shakespeare saying, "Shoot me down in flames, huh? I'll show you shot down..." Dana (Shilling) PS--has anyone started a literary superstore called Bard, Barthes and Beyond?
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1873 Tuesday, 2 November 1999. From: David G. Hale <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 01 Nov 1999 15:15:27 -0500 Subject: Rochester Julius Caesar The Rochester [NY] Shakespeare Players have opened "Julius Caesar," which will run the next three weekends. The play is in modern dress, linking-sometimes rather too obviously-the assassinations of Caesar and JFK (conspiracy theories galore) and the Roman civil war and Viet Nam. The set is a classroom, probably junior high school; the calendar on the wall is November, 1963. There are a lot of women in cast, probably reflecting who showed up for auditions. Some of them work well enough; doubling Portia and Octavius doesn't. Cinna is played by and as a woman, who has a romance going with Cassius. The Brutus is pretty good, the rest so-so. However, as one friend said, the production caused the play to make more sense than when she read it in high school.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1872 Tuesday, 2 November 1999. [1] From: F. Nicholas Clary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 15:02:11 -0500 Subj: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs [2] From: Tom Mueller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 15:51:18 -0500 Subj: Re: SHK 10.1859 URLs [3] From: John Nettles <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 16:18:16 -0500 Subj: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs [4] From: Skip Nicholson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 18:42:57 -0800 Subj: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: F. Nicholas Clary <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 15:02:11 -0500 Subject: 10.1859 URLs Comment: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs Actually both URLs are clickable. If the computer and software are up-to-date, there should be no difference-as there was not for me in Christine's example pair. Nick Clary [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Mueller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 15:51:18 -0500 Subject: 10.1859 URLs Comment: Re: SHK 10.1859 URLs Christine (and others), With the (antiquated) PINE program I use, that method does not create an active link, nor does it in Eudora Light which I also use. I have seen programs that allow that; can't remember which off hand though. A good tip that will work with most programs, however, is to simply highlight and copy the address, then past it in the address box in Netscape or other browser. That saves time and eliminates mistakes. [3]------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Nettles <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 16:18:16 -0500 Subject: 10.1859 URLs Comment: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs I for one got a link with both versions of the address, so I guess not... John Nettles [4]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Nicholson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 18:42:57 -0800 Subject: 10.1859 URLs Comment: RE: SHK 10.1859 URLs I use MS Outlook 2000 with MS Internet Explorer 5. Both the URLs (the one with and the one without the prefix)came through as clickable. Cheers, Skip Nicholson
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1871 Tuesday, 2 November 1999. From: Annalisa Castaldo <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 1 Nov 1999 14:59:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: 10.1854 Re: Ages of Puberty Comment: Re: SHK 10.1854 Re: Ages of Puberty >So, perhaps the debate about actual physical puberty is more complex >than it seems to be? Does it come down in this context at least to a >definition of puberty that is not strictly physiological? What small research I have done in the field of puberty suggests that it is not only a diet higher in protein, but also that the protein we eat these days is impregnated with growth hormones (used to make the animals mature faster, after all). And yet I agree that puberty is not strictly physiological. The modern definition of a "pre-adult" seems to run all the way to 22 or sometimes even later, no matter when the body matures. This is the direct opposite of earlier centuries, when a person we would consider a child -- 14 or 15--is treated as an adult legally as well as realistically. Annalisa Castaldo Temple University
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1869 Tuesday, 2 November 1999. [1] From: Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 01 Nov 1999 11:21:37 -0800 Subj: SHK 10.1855 Re: Old Bill [2] From: Wes Folkerth <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 01 Nov 1999 20:57:29 -0500 Subj: Re: Old Bill [1]----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 01 Nov 1999 11:21:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Old Bill Comment: SHK 10.1855 Re: Old Bill Responding to Sean Laurence question: >Does the fact that Jiang was taken to the Globe really >tell us anything about its production? I think it must. It tells us at least this much: If protestor's are carted off so Mr. Jiang would not be challenged or offended, then we may assume that the Globe's production of JC would not offend or challenge in the same way. In other words, no one would stand on the stage and shout, "Slap Jiang and make him treat Chinese dissidents better. Free Tibet!" It doesn't tell us much else. I have seen the production and the ideas that could challenge President Jaing are not cut. They are there on the stage. R2 may be my choice for a play to present to him, or maybe Titus, but JC will do. Being a mock Elizabethan production, down to men playing female characters and a morris dance at the end, it could have certainly been more confrontational. What if it had been set in Beijing, for example? Maybe in modern Chinese dress. What if someone was dressed in Jiang's typical style? Hmmm. Well, I assume Mark didn't know Jaing would be in attendance when the play was planned, and a production should not be shaped for one member of the audience anyway. I think that many of Sean's points were well made and cogently argued, though I do think there is a bit more of a difference between one side and another than the rhetoric early in his post suggests. I can't help thinking that the best way attacking President Jaing is on the picket line and with letters to MPs and Congress, not by taking swipes at The Globe Theatre. Sean and I certainly agree there. Mike Jensen [2]------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wes Folkerth <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Monday, 01 Nov 1999 20:57:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Old Bill A dissidence is but a chev'ril glove to a good wit? Wes Folkerth Montreal