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Re: Richard's "we"
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1698  Thursday, 7 October 1999.

[1]     From:   Michael McMahon <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 06 Oct 1999 18:42:47 +0100
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[2]     From:   Brian Haylett <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 15:41:32 +0100
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[3]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 06 Oct 1999 14:19:49 -0400
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[4]     From:   Dana Shilling <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 15:19:03 -0400
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[5]     From:   Robin Hamilton <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 09:23:15 +0100
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From:           Michael McMahon <
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Date:           Wednesday, 06 Oct 1999 18:42:47 +0100
Subject: 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"

Prolepsis?

Michael McMahon

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From:           Brian Haylett <
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Date:           Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 15:41:32 +0100
Subject:        Re: Richard's "we"

>In that famous soliloquy that begins the play, Richard uses "our" and
>"we" freely, but the referent of the pronoun is left vague

Richard uses 'I' freely later in the speech, so he is not assuming any
kingly role. What he is doing, with heavy irony, is to speak for the
society he finds himself in; and because he is being so ironic, he can
take the audience in on the joke.

Brian Haylett
Caister-on-Sea

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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 06 Oct 1999 14:19:49 -0400
Subject: 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"

I think that Richard's repeated use of the first person plural in the
early part of the speech is intended to contrast dramatically with his
repeated emphasis of "I" in the latter part.  The "I" strikes us as more
significant after we have been lulled by all those soft "our"s.

Larry Weiss

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Date:           Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 15:19:03 -0400
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Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"

For a non-royal "we" (not even a pre-royal "we") consider Isabella's
"More than our brother is our chastity."

Dana (Shilling)

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From:           Robin Hamilton <
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Date:           Wednesday, 6 Oct 1999 09:23:15 +0100
Subject: 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1689 Re: Richard's "we"

> Roy Flannagan asks who are Richard of Glouster's "we" in R3.

This is a locution perhaps more common in academic than dramatic
circles.  A colleague of mine described it aptly as "the use of the
collusive 'we' " -- (Addressed to students): "We all know that [dubious
statement of choice] ..."

Robin Hamilton
 

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