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Re: Elizabeth I
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1339  Thursday, 29 July 1999.

[1]     From:   David Grant Moss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Jul 1999 11:39:07 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I

[2]     From:   Dana Shilling <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 28 Jul 1999 14:03:35 -0400
        Subj:   Funny kind of flattery

[3]     From:   Karen Peterson-Kranz <
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        Date:   Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:46:39 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I


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From:           David Grant Moss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 28 Jul 1999 11:39:07 -0400
Subject: 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I

Re: Christine Tsai's request for information about the "truth" of
Elizabeth's virginity, I don't know that there is any "truth" to be
found.

There have been various speculations about her relationships with Dudley
and Essex, but there is no known extant source which would "prove" her
virginity one way or the other.  As for provocative anecdotes, they
abound...any of the major biographies (with the possible exception of
Neale's) will give you numerous examples.

However, you might want to reconsider Tom Dale Keever's posting of 23
July, which I quote in part here:  "Elizabeth's 'virginity' should be
understood as a political, and religious, decision of policy, a
brilliant symbolic maneuver in an age when such symbolism was very
potent, not a physiological fact."  For many scholars, myself included,
the use of the Virgin Queen image as a political tool is far more
significant than the physical state of Elizabeth's body or the "truth"
of her claim.

Grant Moss
University of North Carolina

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From:           Dana Shilling <
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Date:           Wednesday, 28 Jul 1999 14:03:35 -0400
Subject:        Funny kind of flattery

Although Queen Elizabeth had a boundless appetite for flattery, she did
not take kindly to being told to marry and procreate-certainly not by an
obscure sonnet-wallah. And I can hardly imagine her being grateful for
being described as a none-too-bright, two-timing slut, much less a
none-too-bright, two-timing slut who is "pricked out for women's
pleasure."

Dana (Shilling)

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From:           Karen Peterson-Kranz <
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Date:           Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:46:39 +1000
Subject: 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1337 Provocative Anecdotes of Elizabeth I

>I intend to find out the "truth" of the virginity of Elizabeth I, I need
>some bibliographies-the more provocative the better.  I've already had a
>rough picture of her whole life, but I want to know more about her
>anecdotes.  Those about her affairs with her favorites are most welcome.

Good luck.  I'm glad "truth" is in scare quotes.  Without those quotes,
images of exhuming E1 and looking for traces of musty old hymen dance
through my head.  More seriously, one addition to the bibliography might
be the recent monograph, Dissing Elizabeth ...and once again I can't
find the author's name.  It's available at the various online
booksellers.

Cheers,
Karen Peterson-Kranz
University of Guam
 

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