1999

Shakespeare in the Cartoons

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1233  Monday, 5 July 1999.

From:           Tanya Gough <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Saturday, 3 Jul 1999 12:31:56 -0400
Subject:        Shakespeare in the Cartoons

While flipping channels this morning, I came across a cartoon called
"Pepper Ann" which I had never seen before.  After the school play
opens, the heroine, Pepper Ann, gets the only good review in the show.
The ensuing dialog goes something like this:

Pepper Ann; You wanna know what the secret to success is?  To thine own
self be true.
Girl 1: You know who wrote that, don't you?  William Shatner
Girl 2.  Shakespeare.  William Shakespeare.

Which reminds me, the Free Enterprise website is up and running, and we
are anticipating the arrival of the soundtrack in the store any day
now.  The OST includes "The Artist Formerly Known As Shatner" (swear to
god that's what it says) performing a rap version of Julius Caesar.  The
film is said to abound with Shakespeare references, and is set to open
July 4 in Los Angeles.

Midsummer Questions

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1232  Monday, 5 July 1999.

From:           Carl Fortunato <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 09:57:42 EDT
Subject:        Midsummer Questions

Does anyone have any thoughts on exactly what the relationship is
between Theseus and Egeus (Hermia's father) in Midsummer?  There seems
to be one of some sort.  In Act I, Scene i, Theseus considers it his
responsibility to talk to Demetrius about trifling with Helena's
affections.

I must confess that I have heard so much, And with Demetrius thought to
have spoke thereof;

But, being over-full of self-affairs,
My mind did lose it.

And then Theseus wants to talk about something unspecified to the Egeus
and Demetrius:

Demetrius, and Egeus, go along;
I must employ you in some business
Against our nuptial, and confer with you
Of something nearly that concerns yourselves.

This "conference" is never mentioned again? Does anyone have any idea
what this is?  It sounds like the beginning of a play with an entirely
different plot.  Is there, perhaps, some mention of these characters and
their relationship with Theseus in some other mythological tale?

Re: Hamlet's Pirates

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1229  Monday, 5 July 1999.

[1]     From:   Sara Vandenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1210 Hamlet's Pirates

[2]     From:   H. R. Greenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 12:51:41 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1217 Re: Hamlet's Pirates



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From:           Sara Vandenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 08:04:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 10.1210 Hamlet's Pirates
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1210 Hamlet's Pirates

See Janice Thomson, _Mercenaries, Pirates and Sovereigns: State-building
and Extraterritorial Violence in Early Modern Europe_ (Princeton, 1994).

Sara van den Berg
University of Washington

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From:           H. R. Greenberg <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 12:51:41 EDT
Subject: 10.1217 Re: Hamlet's Pirates
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1217 Re: Hamlet's Pirates

Dear Professor Hettinger:

If it is not a great bother, I would be immensely appreciative if you
can send me a copy of the article you refer to, as I am not a member of
an academic faculty where I could get same easily. I shall be glad to
pay for copying and mailing. My address is 320 west 86th street, 3A,
New York City, NY l0024-3l39. And yes, I am very much interested in
Hamlet's changed psychological status upon his return, and would once
again appreciate any references or thoughts on the same.

Again if duplicating and sending the article is too much trouble I will
thoroughly understand.

Many thanks in any event,
hr greenberg md endit

Assorted On-Going Threads

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1230  Monday, 5 July 1999.

[1]     From:   Laura Fargas <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 18:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1221 Re: Editing TV Tapes

[2]     From:   Andrew White <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 22:32:29 -0400
        Subj:   Horatio Theory

[3]     From:   Michael Ullyot <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Jun 1999 13:50:02 +0100
        Subj:   Time in Measure for Measure

[4]     From:   Dale Coye <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 22:19:57 EDT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1089 Martius or Marcius

[5]     From:   Earlene Hammock <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 09:52:03 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1213 Sports and Shakespeare


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From:           Laura Fargas <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 18:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 10.1221 Re: Editing TV Tapes
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1221 Re: Editing TV Tapes

 Larry Weiss wrote:

>"On this festive occasion our spirit unbends
>Let us never forget the Profession's best friends
>So we'll send the wine round, and a nice bumper fill
>To the jolly testator who makes his own will."
>              Trad. Barristers  Drinking Song

  <sigh>.  I thought that tune went out of fashion after _Jarndyce v.
Jarndyce_.

> One of the slipperiest concepts is the fair use doctrine (17 USC Sec.
> 107, in US law), which deliberately has no hard and fast rules.  And the
> limited exception for classroom exhibition specifically does not apply
> to exhibitions of motion pictures "by means of a copy that was not
> lawfully made under this title" (Sec. 110(1)).
>
> The best advice was Nick Kind's -- consult a real lawyer.

Piffle.  I am a real lawyer.  While poetry provides a comfortable annual
income in the high double digits, I have nevertheless been an appellate
litigator for the federal government for the past 21 years.

The number of answers real lawyers will give you on this point is equal
to at least the number of real lawyers you consult, times two.

Here are mine:

1.      Don't do it.  The first words out of the mouth of any properly
trained, cautious lawyer.

2.  Be moderate, and then don't worry about it.  The worst thing that
will happen to you (and your university) should someone take umbrage is
that you will get a cease-and-desist letter from the relevant
filmmaker/copyholder, and you will cease and desist.

In this context, being moderate means short bits (5% sounds prudent,
though I am making no representation that this is lawful), and NO
APPARENT PROFIT WHATSOEVER, not a penny.  Do not share your home-made
videos with your fellow academics; they can make their own.  Do not ever
make a copy of this film for any of your students, friends, in-laws or
neighbors or their pets.

This formula seems to be working reasonably well for Net pirates fans
who grab still shots or even fractions of footage or audio up to four or
five minutes from films or TV series, and who always accompany their
grabs with copyright avowals in the name of the original copyholder.
And the minute any objection is raised, the Net people pull the
offending material and post an apology.

Thus, Star Wars images are all over the Net now, but images of its cast
taken by one particular Lucasfilm photographer, Nigel Parry, were pulled
down the minute his legal representative e-mailed an objection to the
sites where they were found.  I have heard of a few other cases in which
offense has been taken, and the worst thing that has ever resulted is a
C & D order or the threat of one (ones I know of were sought by Aaron
Spelling, Paramount, Lucas, and the proprietor of some other popular
cult series) -- including from Lucasfilm, which is absolutely fanatical
about pursuing real-world infringements of its copyright or trademark.

and, answer 3:  Why don't you write and ask permission? Perhaps
precisely because I have spent a couple decades as a litigator, I've
formed the opinion that much trouble would be avoided if Miss Manners
were consulted prior to Dr. Blackstone.

For an excellent history of the Fair Use doctrine-which may help to
soothe nervous academic administrators when you begin using your
video-see Stanley Lindberg, The Nature and History of Copyright. -- I
may be off on the title of the book, but the author is definitely
correct.

Laura Fargas

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From:           Andrew White <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 22:32:29 -0400
Subject:        Horatio Theory

RE:  Horatio's assertion that he came to Elsinore to see Hamlet Sr.'s
funeral --

I have never believed that line.  He is introduced in the first scene
has having been brought to the ramparts (if not to Elsinore)
specifically to interpret the meaning of the Ghost.  "Thou art a scholar
..."  His knowledge of theology and how to handle spirits were needed.

That he says he came for King Hamlet's funeral, well, here's where the
actor in me rebels against a literal interpretation of the text.  The
audience knows full well he is there (with guard in tow) to tell Hamlet
about his father's ghost, not to attend his father's funeral.  I take
the awkward reference to the funeral as being the only way Horatio can
keep the conversation going at an even, measured pace.  He knows what he
has to say, but knows as well that simply blurting it out won't do,
friends don't lay heavy news on friends immediately, they try to set
each other at ease before they do.

I don't doubt that he was Hamlet's friend, and a special one who didn't
impose himself on the prince, only coming when invited to do so.  R&G,
by contrast, are classic suck-ups, who would pester Hamlet night and day
with bawdy jokes (thinking to flatter), debate-team tropes, anything to
ingratiate themselves to a man near the seat of power.

Yet another crackpot theory courtesy of:

Andrew White
Arlington, VA

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From:           Michael Ullyot <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Wednesday, 30 Jun 1999 13:50:02 +0100
Subject:        Time in Measure for Measure

I am posting this response on behalf of a colleague:

* * * * * * * * *
As far as time in Measure for Measure goes, a more serious difficulty is
the Duke's point (in I.ii) that 19 years have elapsed since the letter
of the law first fell into disuse, which conflicts with Claudio's
reference (in I.iii) to only 14 "zodiacs" that have gone round. Or
perhaps I've got this the wrong way round?

Michael Ullyot

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From:           Dale Coye <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 22:19:57 EDT
Subject: 10.1089 Martius or Marcius
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1089 Martius or Marcius

In Anglicized Latin Martius and Marcius are the same  /MAR shuhs/- where
the second syllable has a schwa, hence the confusion in the spelling.

Dale Coye
The College of NJ
"Pronouncing Shakespeare's Words: A Guide from A to Zounds"

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From:           Earlene Hammock <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 09:52:03 -0600
Subject: 10.1213 Sports and Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1213 Sports and Shakespeare

Just a note that may or may not confirm Tom's musing on Shakespeare in
Love as an example of "highlights"; this review of Shakespeare in Santa
Fe's Two Gentlemen of Verona is from The New Mexican, July 1.  About the
actress playing Julia:

"This conceit of a female impersonating a male will serve the future
Rosalind, Viola and Imogen.  It becomes even more of a mind teaser when
one realizes that all the women's roles were played by men.  Is there
anyone who has not seen Shakespeare in Love?"

Perhaps the reviewer, Joseph Portal, uses Shakespeare in Love to teach
local newspaper readers something about the plays?

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Date:    Mon, 5 Jul 1999 08:56:52 -0400
From:    "Hardy M. Cook" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: Re: Unwitnessed Events
Comment: SHK 10.1231  Re: Unwitnessed Events

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1231  Monday, 5 July 1999.

[1]     From:   Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 02 Jul 1999 09:01:59 +0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1219 Re: Unwitnessed Events

[2]     From:   C. David Frankel <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 19:49:06 -0400
        Subj:   RE: SHK 10.1219 Re: Unwitnessed Events

[3]     From:   Michael Ullyot <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Wednesday, 30 Jun 1999 13:47:32 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 10.1219: Unwitnessed events


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From:           Sean Lawrence <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 02 Jul 1999 09:01:59 +0000
Subject: 10.1219 Re: Unwitnessed Events
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1219 Re: Unwitnessed Events

One example that leaps immediately to mind is the description of the
Field of the Cloth of Gold at the beginning of Henry VIII.  A large
number of events in H8 have on-stage audiences; in this case, the events
are seen only through the eyes of the on-stage audience.

Cheers,
Se


Re: WS and WS

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 10.1228  Monday, 5 July 1999.

[1]     From:   Troy Swartz <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 11:46:05 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

[2]     From:   Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:31 +0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

[3]     From:   Hermine Stover <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 02 Jul 1999 12:43:42 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

[4]     From:   Alexander Houck <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Friday, 02 Jul 1999 16:52:52 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare


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From:           Troy Swartz <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 11:46:05 -0400
Subject: 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

Dear God.  I hope I'm not the only one who finds this rather
disturbing.  I see Shatner as being an egomaniac, and this only adds
fuel to his fire.  I'm all for the "updating" of Shakespeare-to a
degree.  But please!  Antony rapping?  Not to mention William Shatner
rapping.  I'm sure purists would find this as offensive as I do.  Am I
the only one?

tas

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From:           Richard Nathan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 2 Jul 1999 16:01:31 +0000
Subject: 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

I've seen "Free Enterprise."  It's fun - but Shatner is the best thing
in it, and he definitely has a supporting role.

The film is mainly about two guys approaching thirty who are still
finatics about the original "Star Trek,"  "Logan's Run" and various
comic book and fantasy shows.

As noted in the original post, Shatner plays a demented version of
himself who wants to play all the roles except Calpurnia in a musical
version of "Julius Caesar."  In addition to doing a rap version of Marc
Antony's funeral oration, he also uses a few lines of Shakespeare to
pick up a woman at a party.  I'm pretty sure they were Titania's lines
from MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM.

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From:           Hermine Stover <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 02 Jul 1999 12:43:42 -0700
Subject: 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

>In a forthcoming movie called Free Enterprise, William Shatner plays
>himself and puts on a production he calls "William Shakespeare's and
>William Shatner's Julius Caesar."

This fails to surprise me. For I have actually heard William Shatner
sing the songs of Bob Dylan.  Apparently he is more foul than foul
esteem'd.

hermine

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From:           Alexander Houck <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 02 Jul 1999 16:52:52 -0700
Subject: 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 10.1225 William Shatner and William Shakespeare

>> PS: After checking a website for the film

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