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Re: Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.0384  Wednesday, 23 February 2000.

[1]     From:   Patrick Dolan <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 09:37:56 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

[2]     From:   Kevin De Ornellas <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 22:00:34 GMT
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

[3]     From:   Jacques Ramel <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 23 Feb 2000 13:29:53 +0100
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[4]     From:   Nicolas Pullin <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 23 Feb 2000 10:02:31 -0600
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[5]     From:   Clifford Stetner <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 21:56:36 -0500
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From:           Patrick Dolan <
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Date:           Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 09:37:56 -0600
Subject: 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

Macbeth (I.i, I think.) has a description of Macbeth's heroism in battle
at the outset. He disembowels a traitor.

Pat

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From:           Kevin De Ornellas <
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Date:           Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 22:00:34 GMT
Subject: 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

>I also was looking for an instance where a character has met a monster or
>mythological beast.
>
>Jimmy Jung

HEYWOOD, Thomas

THE BRAZEN AGE, The first Act containing The death of the Centaure
Nessus...

1613, S.T.C. 13310, Greg 313

In R. H. Shephered, ed., 'Heywood's Dramatic Works', vol. III, 1874.

Kevin De Ornellas B.A., M.A.
School of English
Queen's University Belfast

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From:           Jacques Ramel <
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Date:           Wednesday, 23 Feb 2000 13:29:53 +0100
Subject: 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

Look at the description by Oliver of the fight between Orlando and "a
lioness with udders all drawn dry" (As You Like It, act 4, scene 3).

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Date:           Wednesday, 23 Feb 2000 10:02:31 -0600
Subject: 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

In reply to Jimmy Jung's request, there are numerous reported battles,
perhaps most famously the sergeant's description of Macbeth and Banquo
at the play's opening sequence.  You might also look at As You Like It
for a completely different off-stage combat, Charles' dispatching of the
youths, and also for a reported fight with "monster"-i.e. Orlando and
the lioness (Oliver's speech).  Other possibilities: assassination of
Duncan; Coriolanus in the Volscian town; Gremio's tale of Petruchio in
the church; Othello's death speech; the story of Hamlet's father's duel
with Fortinbras' father; and for a silly version, Toby's lies about
Andrew's/Viola's prowess. Just a beginning, at least.

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From:           Clifford Stetner <
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Date:           Tuesday, 22 Feb 2000 21:56:36 -0500
Subject: 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0374 Second-Hand Fighting and Monsters

The death by bear of Antigonus (often discussed on this list) is
described by the Clown to his father in gory detail in the beginning of
Act IV of The Winter's Tale.  His description of the simultaneous death
of Antigonus' crew by a storm may or may not qualify.

Clifford Stetner

 >I also was looking for an instance where a character has met a monster
>or mythological beast.  Of course the ideal circumstance would be a
>character recalling a fight with a monster.
 

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