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Re: "Doctors"
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.0125  Thursday, 20 January 2000.

[1]     From:   Melissa D. Aaron <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 19 Jan 2000 08:11:36 -0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"

[2]     From:   Briggs John <
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        Date:   Thursday, 20 Jan 2000 08:50:44 -0000
        Subj:   RE: SHK 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"


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From:           Melissa D. Aaron <
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Date:           Wednesday, 19 Jan 2000 08:11:36 -0800
Subject: 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"

>Would Yvonne Bruce tell us what Miss Manners says?
>
>David Glassco

As another fan of Miss Manners, I can say she maintains that Phds do not
use their titles socially.  (She goes on to say that "but I worked hard
for it" is not an adequate excuse.)

She does not say, nor did I, that Phds should not use their titles
professionally, which I think covers all the situations different people
mentioned in education, businesses, hospitals, etc.  In other words, at
work, at a conference, doing business on the phone, and in other
business situations, I'm Dr. Aaron;  but not at a cocktail party.  Of
course, with the growing blurring of lines between social and business
spheres, this can be confusing anyway;  but at least, whether Dr. or
Ms., I'm not called upon to wear a name tag or say "Hi, I'm Melissa and
I'll be your Doctor of Renaissance Literature this evening,"*  though
I'm afraid the day is coming when I will be.

Melissa Aaron
*With apologies to the cartoon Bizarro.

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From:           Briggs John <
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Date:           Thursday, 20 Jan 2000 08:50:44 -0000
Subject: 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"
Comment:        RE: SHK 11.0108 Re: "Doctors"

Many thanks for this information.  Unfortunately, its inconclusive
nature means that any answers to this follow-up question won't throw any
light on the original point at issue:  Did John Hall's contemporaries
(for example his father-in-law) refer to him as "Dr"?

Incidentally, Karl Marx wished to be known in London as "Dr Charles
Marx", but that belongs in another thread!

John Briggs

        Dave Kathman wrote:

>There is no record of John Hall receiving a medical degree in England,
>though as you say he went to Cambridge (B.A. 1594, M.A. 1597).  He may
>have received medical training on the Continent, since the editor of
>Hall's Select Observations on English Bodies (published posthumously)
>noted that he had been "a Traveller acquainted with the French tongue".
>Hall's father William had been a physician, and in his will (made in
>1607) William bequeathed "all my bookes of physicke" to John, suggesting
>that John may have been a practicing physician by then.  (That was the
> same year John married Susanna Shakespeare.)
 

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