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The Topic that Will Not Speak Its Name (or Die) w/
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.0608  Wednesday, 29 March 2000.

[1]     From:   Marilyn Bonomi <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 14:19:10 -0000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[2]     From:   Tom Reedy <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 13:08:21 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[3]     From:   Ian Munro <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 13:27:37 -0700 (MST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[4]     From:   John Lee <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 20:34:01 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
        Subj:   Censorship; Bottoms

[5]     From:   Alice Jane Cooley <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 16:26:58 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[6]     From:   Richard Burt <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 17:18:08 -0500
        Subj:   Censorship

[7]     From:   Jean Peterson <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 17:44:22 -0500
        Subj:   Unspeakable ShaXXXpeares

[8]     From:   Karen E. Peterson-Kranz <
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        Date:   Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:23:30 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[9]     From:   Judith Matthews Craig <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 21:07:42 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

[10]    From:   Werner Broennimann <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 29 Mar 2000 09:04:47 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 11.0606 Bottom and Anus

[11]    From:   Perry Herzfeld <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 29 Mar 2000 22:27:06 +1000
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0591 Issues Involved in Recent Discussion

[12]    From:   Tom Bishop <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 29 Mar 2000 08:57:07 -0500
        Subj:   Tiggiewinkle's Secret


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From:           Marilyn Bonomi <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 14:19:10 -0000
Subject: 11.0606 Recent Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

While I am not a culturalist (that is, I really am not interested in the
manifestations of Shakespeares in the works of various porn purveyors...
or for that matter in "Romeo Must Die" and others of that ilk), I am a
lover of Shakespeare.

Thus, while I continue to delete unread all posts from Professor Burt, I
do read posts about the sexual content of Shakespeare's own work.

I cover the sexual implications of Romeo and Juliet w/ high school
sophomores.  I do so carefully and with many circumlocutions-NOT because
I am either a prude or afraid of "trouble" from parents or
administrators but because 15 year olds are UNCOMFORTABLE about sex,
especially when an adult discusses it with them.

I do not evade questions about Mercutio's desire for Romeo; I do not
evade the issue of swords and weapons being code words for peni.  I also
do not ever say "penis" because that one word embarrasses them more than
any number of "can't get it up" references....  I tell them about
Partridge; I shall now have to tell them of other sources as well :)

The sexual contents and contexts of Shakespeare's work is a most
appropriate subject for this list; in fact, we've debated Sonnet 20 here
as I recall.  (Yes, I believe it is distinctly a homoerotic and perhaps
homosexual poem.  Is it Shakespeare or a constructed voice who utters
those sentiments?    Now THERE is a topic worthy of SHAKSPER debate!)

Marilyn Bonomi

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From:           Tom Reedy <
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Date:           Tuesday, 28 Mar 2000 13:08:21 -0600
Subject: 11.0606 Recent Discussion
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0606 Recent Discussion

Sean Lawrence writes

> Finally, Hardy notes:
>
> > [Editor's Note: I once did something like suggested here, only to be
> > informed by a member that she reads the postings at work and does not
> > want anyone to see the word "porn" in the subject line. -Hardy]
>
> Could we use another subject line?
>
> Cheers,
> Se

 

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