The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.0893  Monday, 24 April 2000.

[1]     From:   Charles Whitney <
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        Date:   Friday, 21 Apr 2000 11:01:55 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0876 Re: "against eloquence"

[2]     From:   Meg Powers Livingston <
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        Date:   Saturday, 22 Apr 2000 09:02:44 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.0864 "against eloquence"


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From:           Charles Whitney <
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Date:           Friday, 21 Apr 2000 11:01:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 11.0876 Re: "against eloquence"
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0876 Re: "against eloquence"

My heavens. Plato vs. the sophists; St. Augustine and other Christians
vs. classical eloquence; Calvin and other reformers for instance on the
place of rhetoric in preaching; for "inveigh" try Agrippa, on the Vanity
of Arts and Sciences; Francis Bacon, Advancement of Learning and
especially Novum Organum, demoting rhetoric and book learning; Milton,
Paradise Regain'd.

Charles Whitney
English, UNLV

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From:           Meg Powers Livingston <
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Date:           Saturday, 22 Apr 2000 09:02:44 -0700
Subject: 11.0864 "against eloquence"
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.0864 "against eloquence"

This example may not fall under "inveighing against eloquence," but
Bacon in several different works argues against the use of metaphor and
other rhetorical devices in speech and writing, at least for scientific
purposes.

Pax,
Meg Powers Livingston