The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.0996 Tuesday, 9 May 2000.
[1] From: David Knauer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 08 May 2000 12:45:14 CDT
Subj: Re: SHK 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
[2] From: Edna Z. Boris <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 8 May 2000 20:39:40 -0400
Subj: Insult Thanks
[3] From: Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 08 May 2000 12:45:14 CDT
Subj: Re: SHK 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
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From: David Knauer <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 08 May 2000 12:45:14 CDT
Subject: 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
Comment: Re: SHK 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
Sean Lawrence writes,
>I wonder if anyone has pushed this sort of table further, to write
>(say) a Shakespearean tragedy. The user (or computer) would choose a
>locale, a tragic hero, something he does, who urges him on, and the
>form in which nemesis arrives. Umberto Eco did something similar, but
>not specifically Shakespearean, in an essay called "make your own
>movie." Such a plot-generating engine might be handy for teaching
>certain types of structuralism.
Several titles of such plot-generating software are already available
for screenwriting, perhaps reflecting the popular American fantasy of
virtually anyone selling a million-dollar script to Hollywood. The
results seem to range from the wacky to the banal, suggesting that much
of what we watch might just as well be authored by computer. I imagine
something similar also exists for writers of fiction, and of course
there's always Vladimir Propp and Northrop Frye to help out in a pinch.
Dave Knauer
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From: Edna Z. Boris <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 8 May 2000 20:39:40 -0400
Subject: Insult Thanks
Thanks to those who quickly answered my question about Jerry Maguire and
the Shakespearean Insults. A printed version can be found on p. 125 of
Peggy O'Brien's Shakespeare Set Free: Teaching Romeo and Juliet,
Macbeth, A Midsummer Night's Dream. New York: Washington Square Press,
1993.
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From: Hardy M. Cook <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Monday, 08 May 2000 12:45:14 CDT
Subject: 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
Comment: Re: SHK 11.0973 Re: Shakespearean Insults
Since it has just been brought up, I have two favorite insults from the
plays themselves.
For the first, I ask the pardon of my late Welsh grandmother, Margaret
Morgan Cook.
<Glend.> I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
<Hot.> Why, so can I, or so can any man,
But will they come when you do call for them?
(Henry the Fourth Pt1 3.1.52-54)
For the second, no apologies.
<King.> Where is Polonius?
<Ham.> In heaven, send thither to see; if your
messenger find him not there, seek him i' th' other
place yourself.
(Tragedy of Hamlet 4.3.32-37)