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Re: SER and H8
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.2162  Monday, 27 November 2000

[1]     From:   Eric Luhrs <
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        Date:   Friday, 24 Nov 2000 17:35:55 -0500 (EST)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.2150 More Provenance . . .

[2]     From:   Marcus Dahl <
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        Date:   Monday, 27 Nov 2000 04:47:00 EST
        Subj:   SER COMPUTER / Carol Barton's Mail


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From:           Eric Luhrs <
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Date:           Friday, 24 Nov 2000 17:35:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 11.2150 More Provenance . . .
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.2150 More Provenance . . .

> Recently, however, a computer program designed by English company SER
> Systems determined that Shakespeare was 88 percent likely to have been
> the sole author of "Henry VIII."

Dear SHAKSPEReans,

SER's website gives more details about the program (SERbrainware) and
its results:

        http://www.ser.com/news/101700.htm

Cheers,
Eric Luhrs

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From:           Marcus Dahl <
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Date:           Monday, 27 Nov 2000 04:47:00 EST
Subject:        SER COMPUTER / Carol Barton's Mail

A few notes on Carol Barton's post RE: the new SER computer program
which assigns an 88% chance of the authorship of Henry VIII being
Shakespeare alone - -

(1)     An 88% chance of the play being Shakespeare alone presumably doesn't
invalidate claims that PART of the play was written by Fletcher. The
import of such a wide band statistical claim may be doubted in any case
in that it tells us nothing of the possible division of authorship or
comparative rates with the works of Fletcher etc.

(2) Jonathan Hope's findings for Regulation rates of the auxiliary 'do'
and relative markers (who/which/ that/zero) confirmed a distinct
division of authorship in the play contradicting Cyril Hoy's claim that
the play was solely by Shakespeare. Hope divides up the authorship thus:
Section A to Shakespeare, Section B to Fletcher and a strong likelihood
of Section C also being by Fletcher . [A= 1.01,1.02,3.02a,5.01 /B=
1.03,1.04,3.01,5.02,5.03,5.04/C= 2.01,2.02,3.02b,4.01,4.02]

(3) Ward Elliott's more extensive testing of the whole Canon and
Apocrypha (too complicated to list here -ask Ward) also rejects
Shakespeare as sole author of the play and in fact his wide ranging
tests seem to indicate that S's authorship of any part of the play may
be doubted (the play receives a a total of 15 rejections compared to a
Shakespeare Core Profile of maximum 3).

  * What does everyone else think? Agree with Hope/ Elliott or think the
play is Shakespeare's?

  * I hope such a question doesn't collide too much with the banned
'authorship
  question' (?)

Yours,
Marcus
 

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