The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1950  Thursday, 19 October 2000.

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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Oct 2000 11:42:48 -0700
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Oct 2000 15:04:45 -0500
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[8]     From:   Syd Kasten <
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        Date:   Thursday, 19 Oct 2000 00:58:49 +0200 (IST)
        Subj:   Images in the mind

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        Date:   Thursday, 19 Oct 2000 06:53:41 EDT
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From:           Sean Lawrence <
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Date:           Tuesday, 17 Oct 2000 11:26:55 -0700
Subject: 11.1945 Re: Fops
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1945 Re: Fops

Scott Oldenburg writes:

> I'm not sure that we all see the same Madonna and Child.  Doesn't it
> seem that an atheist might see a very different Madonna and Child than a
> devout Catholic would?  A mother might see a different Madonna and Child
> than her child might, and someone who has lost a child might see a still
> a different Madonna and Child (not to mention what Madonna fans see)?

This is quite true.  An art historian would see a different Madonna from
an iconoclast, to add to the examples.  I think that Umberto Eco has
rather convincingly shown, however, that short of being blind or having
no idea of the Biblical story figured in the painting, there is a
limited number of meanings that a group of semantic signs can
constitute.

Bill Godshalk adds:

> Well, actually, the words on the page DO nothing.  They certainly do NOT
> create images in our minds.  We readers do the creating; words on a page
> do not act.

Actually, recent readings of Husserl have tended to somewhat limit the
agency of the perceiver vis-