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Re: Authentic Performance
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1778  Thursday, 21 September 2000.

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 14:08:30 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

[2]     From:   Geralyn Horton <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 14:49:13 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

[3]     From:   Sean Lawrence <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 17:10:16 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

[4]     From:   Don Bloom <
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        Date:   Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 09:26:06 -0500
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance


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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 14:08:30 -0400
Subject: 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

Florence Amit says:

>Mr. Larry Weiss, I have told you that your deductions, your evidence,
>cannot be adequate for research.

I agree; but I did not offer evidence.  It is you who suggests that your
speculations are evidence.  I just asked questions, some of which (but
not all) were rhetorical.

Ms. Amit reverses the inquiry when she tell Marilyn Bonomi to "Prove me
in error."  When anyone advances a novel and implausible hypothesis
depending on strained surmises from similarities which almost no one
else perceives, it is incumbent on her (not the skeptics) to prove the
case.  Some people believe that the Holocaust never happened, that all
the evidence amassed for it was part of a vast anti-German conspiracy.
Prove them wrong.  Prove the Oxfordians wrong.

Tony Burton answers one of my questions -- not a rhetorical one -- by
informing us that Hebrew was taught at Oxford.  I assumed it was taught
somewhere in England, else the KJ Bible would have been an
impossibility, but I really did not know where.  But no one has answered
my next (non-rhetorical) question:  Did WS have access to the teaching?
To suggest that some Talmudic concepts might have entered the popular
culture by a process akin to osmosis does not explain the profound
knowledge of the Hebrew language which Ms. Amit conjectures.

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From:           Geralyn Horton <
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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 14:49:13 -0400
Subject: 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

>"Winchester Talmud."  That Talmud received its
>name because it was brought down from Oxford during Henry VIII's great
>effort to wangle an annulment from the pope, by Oxford's prominent
>Hebraicist

I read in some forgotten book of my childhood that Queen E had some
considerable knowledge of Hebrew, in addition to "mastery" of Greek,
Latin, French, Italian, and Spanish.  This mightily impressed me: enough
that I have remembered-- or misremembered- it for nearly 50 years.

Has my memory tricked me?  Or was that author inventing biographical
detail to prod young minds to emulative exertion?  Or did she, indeed?

Geralyn Horton, Playwright
Newton, Mass. 02460
<http://www.tiac.net/users/ghorton>

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From:           Sean Lawrence <
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Date:           Wednesday, 20 Sep 2000 17:10:16 -0700
Subject: 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1769 Re: Authentic Performance

Florence Amit writes:

>Sean, I want to assure you that induction to be made into a tool for
>serious research requires more than rare instances. There must be very
>many occasions, the words must to some extent have the weight of grammar
>and they must always suit the story and the text. ( Of course they also
>may change the concept.)

As did my example, at least as well as yours.  As for finding many
examples, that seems far more a matter of imagination than of anything
else, as I think that I made clear using the metaphor of my father being
able to find more examples.

>Indeed as I showed you in my example from
>Schoenfeld: without the hint that ofert  - lead, needs the addition of
>the Hebrew letter peh, to become Porat, perhaps Bassanio would not have
>choose the right casket.  However there is much more than that in the
>play that benefits from Hebrew.

Porat doesn't even sound like Portia.  Porte-

 

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