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Re: Exploitation, Marx, and Shakespeare
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1468  Wednesday, 9 August 2000.

From:           W. L. Godshalk <
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Date:           Tuesday, 08 Aug 2000 10:43:53 -0400
Subject: 11.1463 Re: Exploitation, Marx, and Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1463 Re: Exploitation, Marx, and Shakespeare

No, John,

I'm suggesting that ideology is an art (NOT that art is ideology), or,
if you will, ideology may be placed by a human in the category of art.
Ideology is certainly not a science. Would you like to place it in
another category?  Metaphysics?

>On the question of value I challenge you to tell me categorically what
>Shakespeare 'thought' or 'intended'.  We start from the value that WE
>impose upon these texts, and here value is historically contingent. We
>may speculate on what value these texts might have had for Elizabethan
>and Jacobean culture but it would be difficult to prove those
>speculations conclusively.

And, John, this is my position as well as (I take it) yours, though I
would cut the final "conclusively."  It's impossible to prove those
speculations IN ANY WAY.  As Montaigne would ask, "What do I know?"

Sorry, you don't like my beaver analogy.  The point is that we humans
like to place ourselves above or even outside the natural world, when,
in fact, transcendence is impossible.

Yours, Bill

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