The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1468 Wednesday, 9 August 2000.
From: W. L. Godshalk <
Date: Tuesday, 08 Aug 2000 10:43:53 -0400
Subject: 11.1463 Re: Exploitation, Marx, and Shakespeare
Comment: Re: SHK 11.1463 Re: Exploitation, Marx, and Shakespeare
I'm suggesting that ideology is an art (NOT that art is ideology), or,
if you will, ideology may be placed by a human in the category of art.
Ideology is certainly not a science. Would you like to place it in
another category? Metaphysics?
>On the question of value I challenge you to tell me categorically what
>Shakespeare 'thought' or 'intended'. We start from the value that WE
>impose upon these texts, and here value is historically contingent. We
>may speculate on what value these texts might have had for Elizabethan
>and Jacobean culture but it would be difficult to prove those
And, John, this is my position as well as (I take it) yours, though I
would cut the final "conclusively." It's impossible to prove those
speculations IN ANY WAY. As Montaigne would ask, "What do I know?"
Sorry, you don't like my beaver analogy. The point is that we humans
like to place ourselves above or even outside the natural world, when,
in fact, transcendence is impossible.