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Re: Marx and Shakespeare
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 11.1558  Tuesday, 22 August 2000.

[1]     From:   Geralyn Horton <
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        Date:   Monday, 21 Aug 2000 15:11:50 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare

[2]     From:   John Drakakis <
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        Date:   Monday, 21 Aug 2000 20:26:44 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare


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From:           Geralyn Horton <
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Date:           Monday, 21 Aug 2000 15:11:50 -0400
Subject: 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare
Comment:        Re: SHK 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare

> At the risk of creating a bizarre tangent -- I have lately taken to
> thinking about the fictive aspects of ideology, particularly as they
> play out in philosophical tracts, etc. -- Plato's theory aside, I find
> ideology to be an imaginative process in some sense,

Vivid instance: Scientology?  First sci-fi novels, then a
religion/psychology/metaphysics? Or Mormonism?

Unless I misunderstand what the revisionist archeologists are saying,
they now believe that something similar happened with the Bible, in that
metaphoric creations such as the Kingdom of Solomon were literalized and
read back into history (rather than projected forward as Future).
Archeology in that area was conducted as a search for physical remains
that correspond to the biblical accounts-- but none of the purported
"finds" stands up to scrutiny. Truth is interpretive potency, not
"fact".

Geralyn Horton, Playwright
Newton, Mass. 02460
<http://www.tiac.net/users/ghorton>

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From:           John Drakakis <
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Date:           Monday, 21 Aug 2000 20:26:44 +0100
Subject: 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare
Comment:        RE: SHK 11.1540 Re: Marx and Shakespeare

I agree with Andrew White, and I had hoped that my intervention in this
discussion would avoid having to re-invent the wheel.

For those such as Tony Burden, who think that all this has nothing to do
with Shakespeare, then the question that Andrew White poses should make
them think again, and make them think about the ideological investment
that they make when they attempt to isolate 'Shakespeare' from these
practices.   If I may extend White's enquiry:  in what ways might we say
that a Shakespearean text produces ideology, while at the same time
opening up the possibility of an ideology critique but without forcing
us back into some notion of the controlling 'oceanic' artistic
intelligence?

This one is not for the faint-hearted.

Cheers,
John Drakakis
 

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