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Re: Welsh in Henry IV
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0214  Wednesday, 31 January 2001

[1]     From:   Curt L. Tofteland <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 30 Jan 2001 11:40:15 EST
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV

[2]     From:   Manuela Rossini <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 30 Jan 2001 18:58:28 +0100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV


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From:           Curt L. Tofteland <
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Date:           Tuesday, 30 Jan 2001 11:40:15 EST
Subject: 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV

Tony Burton writes:

"An onstage conversation in Spanish, for example, is presumably (I hope
I'm not offending) more or less unintelligible in North Dakota,"

Tony,

You were not offensive, just uninformed.

I am a native North Dakotan and I can verify that due to the major
industry of the state being agriculture, there is indeed a Spanish
speaking population, the result of the Hispanic migrant workforce and
also due to the fact that Spanish is taught in the school system.

Regards,
Curt L. Tofteland
Producing Director
Kentucky Shakespeare Festival

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From:           Manuela Rossini <
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Date:           Tuesday, 30 Jan 2001 18:58:28 +0100
Subject: 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0198 Re: Welsh in Henry IV

Karen Peterson-Kranz writes,

>What a perfect and gracious response Ann Carrigan writes.  And what a
>wonderful example of how we can compare different opinions
>constructively on the list if we care enough to do so.

Our differing opinions are, of course, related to our differing critical
positions. Mine is obviously informed by (materialist) feminism. A
number of feminists have read the semi-private encounter between the
Englishman and the Frenchwoman in the vain I did - I especially
recommend Valerie Traub's psychoanalytic reading of the wooing scene (in
her book DESIRE ...), Ann.

>The parallels between the H5 wooing scene and Benedick had never
>occurred to me before, but they certainly seem to be there -- at least
>in textual form.

Well, Branagh has noticed the similarity - he impersonates both in his
screenings. Both heroes "stop" the bride's mouth with a kiss after the
wooing, which I read once more as a silencing of teh female voice and -
by analogy - an appropriation of the female (sexual) body. And as to
their clumsy "eloquence" in matters of the heart: both are "valient
forefathers" of Clint Eastwood ... MUCH ADO and HENRY V have a lot to
say about the emergent modern notion of masculinity, I'd argue.

Unlike Sean Lawrence, I don't think that the courtship is entirely
gratuitous, but since I elaborate this point in a whole chapter of my
(forthcoming) PhD, I am reluctant to present my opinion in detail here.

Cheers,
Manuela Rossini
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