2001

Lady Macbeth's Murder

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0047  Tuesday, 9 January 2001

From:           Paul Swanson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday 08 Jan 2001 18:38:17 -0500
Subject:        Lady Macbeth's Murder

Greetings All:

Has anyone ever seen a production or read any criticism in which Lady
Macbeth's death is not a suicide, but rather, Macbeth is implicated in
her murder?

My wife and I are having an ongoing discussion about this. The idea that
Macbeth either murdered Lady Macbeth or had her murdered seems to me an
entirely speculative and unsubstantiated one. I do grant, however, that
the only reference we have to her death is Malcolm's characterization of
her as a "fiend-like queen / Who (as 'tis thought) by self and violent
hands, Took off her life" (5.9.35-36), and Malcolm was yet to arrive at
Dunsinane at the time of her death and could not really know with any
certainty the particulars of Lady Macbeth's death.

Is there any basis for suspecting Macbeth of Lady Macbeth's murder? Any
thoughts would be appreciated, both for my own contemplation and the
healthy state of my marital conversations.

Paul Swanson

King John

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0046  Tuesday, 9 January 2001

From:           Jack Heller <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday 08 Jan 2001 17:50:50 -0500
Subject:        King John

Dear Listmembers:

It's time I started a new research project. Unfortunately, the college
where I currently work does not have current research resources, not
even the MLA-IB. I would like to look at King John in relation to Tudor
and Stuart religious politics. Besides Shakespeare's play, I intend to
examine John Bale's King Johan, the anonymous play The Troublesome
Raigne of King John, and the section on John in Foxe's Acts and
Monuments. I would welcome information on any primary or secondary texts
that should be part of this project. Replies offlist are welcome.

Jack Heller

P.S. Is there a way of searching the MLA-IB online?

Thesis Problem

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0044  Tuesday, 9 January 2001

From:           Mike Jensen <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday 08 Jan 2001 10:13:00 -0800
Subject:        Thesis Problem

My friend Judy has a dilemma.  The first chapter of her MA thesis is due
soon.  While working on it, she discovered an article, in German, that
basically covers what she planned to cover in her first chapter.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Mike Jensen

Re: Johnson's Shakespeare

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0045  Tuesday, 9 January 2001

From:           Terence Hawkes <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday 8 Jan 2001 14:05:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Johnson's Shakespeare
Comment:        SHK 12.0036 Re: Johnson's Shakespeare

Don Bloom tells us that 'Johnson was not only remarkably learned but had
tremendous insights'. Such as his remarkably learned conclusion that in
Shakespeare's day, the English were still struggling to emerge from
barbarity, and that Shakespeare found the English stage in a state of
'the utmost rudeness . . . Neither character nor dialogue were yet
understood'?  Or his tremendous insight that 'imperial tragedy' is
always less powerful when performed than when read?

T. Hawkes

Re: Orlando

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0043  Tuesday, 9 January 2001

[1]     From:   Don Bloom <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Monday, 08 Jan 2001 11:16:37 -0600
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0037 Re: Orlando

[2]     From:   Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
        Date:   Tuesday, 9 Jan 2001 09:27:07 +1100
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0037 Re: Orlando


[1]-----------------------------------------------------------------
From:           Don Bloom <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Monday, 08 Jan 2001 11:16:37 -0600
Subject: 12.0037 Re: Orlando
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0037 Re: Orlando

Ed Taft writes:

>I think that Rosalind initially falls in love with Orlando because he
>has a great body.

Can we assume that Ed is engaging here in a bit of whimsical
exaggeration at Rosalind's expense? Surely, she falls in love with
Orlando because he is heroic, not just handsome (and scarcely
muscle-bound). A secondary appeal would be to her maternal instincts
through the seeming hopelessness of his situation. Last would be his
physical attractiveness with his shirt off.

At least, that's how I'd pitch it to the actress doing Rosalind if I
were directing the play,

Cheers,
don bloom

[2]-------------------------------------------------------------
From:           Sophie Masson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Tuesday, 9 Jan 2001 09:27:07 +1100
Subject: 12.0037 Re: Orlando
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0037 Re: Orlando

My feeling is that here we have Shakespeare the imaginative, perceptive
realist, who understood that in a marriage, people's temperaments,
qualities and foibles alike, can gel together or clash in a variety of
unexpected and interesting ways. More than most writers, he seems to
understand that love-from the beginning-and marriage are not static
states but a constant process of discovery, of chaos and peace, of an
always-evolving tension and resolution, an at-times terrifyingly doomed
or threatened noble daring, a learning staggered continually. The
relationship of two human beings is thus a kind of microcosm for the
constant struggle of humanity to maintain meaning, however small and
modest, against a n often seemingly random and mightily crushing
universe. Sorry to get so philosophical, but Ed's inspiring post is to
blame!

Sophie Masson
Author site: http://www.northnet.com.au/~smasson

Subscribe to Our Feeds

Search

Make a Donation

Consider making a donation to support SHAKSPER.