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Re: Bard Bade Goodbye
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0850  Monday, 16 April 2001

[1]     From:   Stuart Manger <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 18:43:16 +0100
        Subj:   SHK 12.0829 Re: Bard Bade Goodbye

[2]     From:   Syd Kasten <
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        Date:   Thursday, 12 Apr 2001 12:03:28 +0300 (IDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0829 Re: Bard Bade Goodbye


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From:           Stuart Manger <
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Date:           Wednesday, 11 Apr 2001 18:43:16 +0100
Subject: Re: Bard Bade Goodbye
Comment:        SHK 12.0829 Re: Bard Bade Goodbye

University of St. Andrew's, or Edinburgh, or UCL NOT 'proper
universities' in the UK , and Oxbridge the only 'proper ones' eh?

Really?

Hope you know a good lawyer / doctor?

Stuart Manger

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From:           Syd Kasten <
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Date:           Thursday, 12 Apr 2001 12:03:28 +0300 (IDT)
Subject: 12.0829 Re: Bard Bade Goodbye
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0829 Re: Bard Bade Goodbye

Sean Lawrence informs us that

>................................... Kurosawa was denounced by French
>intellectuals (I don't know of what school) as "not Japanese enough".
>Since his work borrowed so heavily from Shakespeare, not to mention
>Hollywood, some people couldn't accept it as Japanese.  There's
>something in this, I think, about seeing elements of western culture as
>purely corrosive, a pollution rather than an addition to anything with
>which they come into contact.

Ah, the French!  Ad gentum arguments may not be polite but it is indeed
the French who legislate foreign language from their storefronts. In
their north American province the Canadian national department store
chain "Eaton's" had by law to drop the English genitive "'s" from its
logo. You may, find this unbelievable, but accept it as true: one year
in the recent past, storekeepers in Montreal who imported packaged food
suitable for Passover dietary restrictions were required by inspectors
to remove it from their shelves because the labelling was in English and
Hebrew.  It took a court case to allow a special indulgence for the
holiday period.  One wonders what those French intellecuals would have
said had Kurosawa borrowed from Hugo, Dumas or Rabelais.

As for the chemical metaphors "corrosive" and "pollution", read
"Fashionable Nonsense, Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science" by
Sokal and Bricmont, whose title speaks for itself.  Since we are dealing
with culture I would prefer to use a biological metaphor such as
"cross-pollination".

The embattled French at times seem still to be fighting the Seven Years
War.  I think it was the American baseball manager Casey Stengel who
observed that it was "deja vu all over again".

Best wishes,
Syd Kasten

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