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Re: Daft
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0888  Sunday, 22 April 2001

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Apr 2001 13:15:00 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

[2]     From:   Arthur D L Lindley <
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        Date:   Thursday, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:31 +0800
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

[3]     From:   Dana Shilling <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 18 Apr 2001 17:42:27 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

[4]     From:   Judy Lewis <
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        Date:   Saturday, 21 Apr 2001 01:13:10 +1200
        Subj:   Re: Thomases

[5]     From:   Susanne Collier <
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        Date:   Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:56:31 -0700
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0846 Daft


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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Wednesday, 18 Apr 2001 13:15:00 -0400
Subject: 12.0873 Re: Daft
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

Henry's nominative rut extended to other areas as well.  Don't forget
that half his wives were named Catherine and two thirds of the rest were
called Anne.

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From:           Arthur D L Lindley <
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Date:           Thursday, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:31 +0800
Subject: 12.0873 Re: Daft
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

I believe the early modern custom of giving a younger child the same
name as an older was usually because the latter had died.  Samuel
Richardson, nine of whose ten children died before puberty, gave his own
name to at least two of his sons in an attempt to perpetuate it.

Arthur Lindley

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From:           Dana Shilling <
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Date:           Wednesday, 18 Apr 2001 17:42:27 -0400
Subject: 12.0873 Re: Daft
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0873 Re: Daft

I'm Henry the Eighth, I am,
Henry the Eighth, I am, I am,
I got married to the widow next door,
She's been married seven times before,
And every one was an 'Enery,
She wouldn't 'ave a Willy or a Sam...

Dana SHilling

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From:           Judy Lewis <
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Date:           Saturday, 21 Apr 2001 01:13:10 +1200
Subject:        Re: Thomases

Why so many men in the life of Henry VIII called Thomas?

Consider this: three of his six wives were called Katherine, as was the
governess to his daughter Elizabeth.  His second wife Anne Boleyn (one
of two wives called Anne) was the daughter of a Thomas, and sister to a
Mary.  Henry's own sister was Mary, his daughter Mary, and great niece
Mary, Queen of Scots.

One of Katherine Howard's lovers was Thomas Culpeper; the Dukes of
Norfolk were all called Thomas.  Henry's third wife Jane (who shared her
name with Lady Jane Grey) had a brother Thomas, who later married
Catherine Parr, whose first father in law was a Thomas.

The fact of the matter is that there were only a few Christian names
that were commonly used.  I would suggest that the great popularity of
Thomas stems from the adulation given to England's foremost saint,
Thomas Becket, who was one of the two most popular saints in Europe for
the several hundred years before the Reformation.

Judy Lewis

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From:           Susanne Collier <
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Date:           Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:56:31 -0700
Subject: 12.0846 Daft
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0846 Daft

Daftly, Henry VIII reminds me of the line from "Oh What a Lovely War":

"I push all suitors from me
But the sailor and the Tommy
I've an army and a navy of my own"

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