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Re: Ariel's Gender
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.0931  Wednesday, 25 April 2001

[1]     From:   Larry Weiss <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 24 Apr 2001 19:28:37 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0910 Re: Ariel's Gender

[2]     From:   Clifford Stetner <
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        Date:   Wednesday, 25 Apr 2001 06:31:45 -0400
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.0914 Re: Ariel's Gender


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From:           Larry Weiss <
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Date:           Tuesday, 24 Apr 2001 19:28:37 -0400
Subject: 12.0910 Re: Ariel's Gender
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0910 Re: Ariel's Gender

Clifford Stetner's suggestion that Ariel must be female as the character
is listed after Miranda in the F1 Dramatis Personae is hardly
conclusive.  Not only is there no reason to believe that Shakespeare
wrote the "Names of the Actors," but it seems to have been customary to
list spirit characters in the block following the human females in the
dramatis personae.

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From:           Clifford Stetner <
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Date:           Wednesday, 25 Apr 2001 06:31:45 -0400
Subject: 12.0914 Re: Ariel's Gender
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.0914 Re: Ariel's Gender

I said:

>>it would be the only example of such misplacement in a book that
>> insists on placing MM's Isabella below the dissolute prisoner Barnardine

As Markus points out below, this is an egregious historical inaccuracy.

As Chaucer says:

Also I prey you to foryeve it me
Al have I not set folk in hir degree
Here in this tale as that they sholde stond
My wit is short, ye may well understonde.

>And even then, not all the lists are as consistent in respect of gender,
>age or importance (of either the actor or the character): in WT the
>"ladies" are put between Dion and Polixenes (in a somehow geographical
>order?) and in TIMON Phrynia and Tymandra are not even listed (nor is
>Flavius), but "Certain Maskers" (= Athenian ladies, disguised as
>Amazones) appear in a prominent position between the senators and
>thieves, before Flaminius and Sempronius etc.

Clifford
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