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Re: Seminars
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.1133  Tuesday, 15 May 2001

[1]     From:   Andrew Walker White <
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        Date:   Monday, 14 May 2001 15:46:03 -0400 (EDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars

[2]     From:   Florence Amit <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 15 May 2001 01:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
        Subj:   Re: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars

[3]     From:   John Drakakis <
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        Date:   Tuesday, 15 May 2001 11:40:23 +0100
        Subj:   RE: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars


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From:           Andrew Walker White <
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Date:           Monday, 14 May 2001 15:46:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 12.1117 Re: Seminars
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars

For the record:  I didn't take offense at Dr. Hawkes' remarks, but
rather assumed that because my remarks may had been written in a rush
they were misinterpreted.  Perhaps this is the flip side of civility --
taking it with a grin, when someone expresses astonishment at a
"spectacularly wrong" statement, and using it as an opportunity to
clarify.  I find Dr. Hawkes to be something of a gadfly, poking and
prodding at signs of weakness/lack of clarity, and often enjoyably so
(hope this doesn't burst his bubble).

We not only have a professional obligation to avoid offensive remarks,
we also have a corresponding obligation to avoid _taking_ offense so
easily.  Checking in the ego at the Internet gateway involves a good bit
of both.

Cheers,
Andy "Golden Quill" White

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From:           Florence Amit <
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Date:           Tuesday, 15 May 2001 01:05:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 12.1117 Re: Seminars
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars

Please excuse my errors in composition of yesterday.  The laughable one
must have been accomplished by a sympathetic spirit. I will try to have
better control in the future.

Florence Amit

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From:           John Drakakis <
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Date:           Tuesday, 15 May 2001 11:40:23 +0100
Subject: 12.1117 Re: Seminars
Comment:        RE: SHK 12.1117 Re: Seminars

Sean Lawrence is in danger of tying his ear to no tongue but his own.
May I suggest that before he trails words like 'ideology' he takes the
trouble to find out the way that they are used in academic debate these
days.

I'm not quite sure whether my invocation of 'socialism' or my reference
to a North American contributor (against whom he seems determined to
want to distinguish himself), has pressed Sean's buttons.  Frankly I'd
prefer that he keeps his 'personal' like out of the public business of
academic debate, since that may be of no interest to anyone but himself.

On my choice of the 'mafia' movie, I think that his argument
demonstrates my point admirably.  Maybe if he gives some thought to the
concept of displaced violence we might be able to have a serious debate.

Finally, I urge him to give serious critical attention to the concept of
'ethics' to which he refers.  Again, what he does in his personal life
is none of my, or this list's concern. When an appeal to 'ethics' is
offered as part of an ensemble of academic protocols then we are
entitled to ask for a more substantial justification than the rather
thin one he has offered to date.

Of course, if I have to engage in butchery, let me assure Sean, that
it's not personal, it's business.

Cheers,
John Drakakis

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