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The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2710 Friday, 30 November 2001 From: Jane Drake Brody <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Friday, 30 Nov 2001 09:23:32 EST Subject: Subtext Subtext is a frequently misunderstood concept. Most lay people believe that it is a translation of sorts of the text. In this case the subtext of "Hi" may be "Glad to see you" or "Greetings!" Most directors/actors see subtext as a compromise between what the character wants to say and what the character will say. In this case, "Hi" may mean "I hate the very sight of you." This "compromise" is concerned with the nature of the conflict in the relationship as much as or more than it is concerned with the conflict in the plot. Plots change (so to speak) from scene to scene or from play to play ie Henry VI. So the subtext is predicated upon the essential conflict between the characters which may theoretically precede the day in which the conflict of the play begins. For instance, when Hamlet tells Ophelia to go to the nunnery, he is responding not only to his anger at her in the moment, but also to the essential problem he has always had with her (the faithfulness or trustworthiness of women) which precedes the momentary plot of the play. On the literal level, "Get the to a nunnery" means "Leave my sight." On the "relational" level it could have many meanings ie "I am so disapointed in you," "I wish to kill you," "I beg you to forgive me." Please don't write to me that the play is just words and that the characters don't "want" anything. As an acting teacher, this approach is not affective in bringing characters to life. Jane Drake Brody _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2709 Friday, 30 November 2001 From: Sam Small <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 16:01:02 -0000 Subject: 12.2696 Bard and My Baby Go Back 27 Comment: Re: SHK 12.2696 Bard and My Baby Go Back 27 I think Shakespeare would have been just as bored by this vanilla sex rendition of his play as I am. SAM SMALL _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2708 Friday, 30 November 2001 From: Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 17:29:28 -0500 Subject: Shakespeare in Hell Metal Band Heavy metal band Shakespeare in Hell wrote me and gave me their website URL: http://www.shakespeareinhell.com/ (I am not a metalhead, in case you hadn't noticed. I like the website, though.) _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2707 Friday, 30 November 2001 From: Gabriel Egan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 13:59:33 -0000 Subject: 12.2686 Re: MND Tops Survey Comment: Re: SHK 12.2686 Re: MND Tops Survey The Sam Small writing seminar starts up again: > It is an old screenwriting adage that "if a scene is > about what the scene is about you are in deep trouble". > Writers of experience know that sub text is sometimes > never obvious and that telling an audience clearly what > you mean at every turn will bore them out of the theatre > in droves. I am sure Shakespeare applied this tenant to > the whole of R&J. If my lunch is my lunch, am I in trouble too? The verb "to be" here displays the full metaphysical subtlety of the verb "to do" in the jingle "Only Oxo does what only Oxo can". Let us pass over in silence the exquisite childishness of "sometimes never" and the applying of luckless tenants to dirty our hands in those matters which the dogged realists still insist on calling history: > But remember, 40 years later - and in complete ignorance of the > message of R&J - England tore itself apart in a civil war between > two "families" Alas, I forgot. Which families, Sam? Luckily, father and son never found themselves on different sides, I suppose. Gabriel Egan _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.
The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2706 Friday, 30 November 2001 From: Todd Pettigrew <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. > Date: Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 12:22:44 -0800 Subject: 12.2693 R & J on "Gilmore Girls" Comment: Re: SHK 12.2693 R & J on "Gilmore Girls" A Canadian network carries GG as well; Global, I think, on Friday nights. Not a young girl, I quite like the show nevertheless. The dialogue is snappy and I'm sick of single parent families on TV where the single parent is the father. GG is sort of a cynical, small town, apolitical, feminine West Wing. I'm looking forward to this R&J episode. t. _______________________________________________________________ S H A K S P E R: The Global Shakespeare Discussion List Hardy M. Cook,This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. The S H A K S P E R Webpage <http://ws.bowiestate.edu> DISCLAIMER: Although SHAKSPER is a moderated discussion list, the opinions expressed on it are the sole property of the poster, and the editor assumes no responsibility for them.