2001

Subtext

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2710  Friday, 30 November 2001

From:           Jane Drake Brody <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Friday, 30 Nov 2001 09:23:32 EST
Subject:        Subtext

Subtext is a frequently misunderstood concept. Most lay people believe
that it is a translation of sorts of the text.  In this case the subtext
of "Hi" may be "Glad to see you" or "Greetings!"  Most directors/actors
see subtext as a compromise between what the character wants to say and
what the character will say.  In this case, "Hi" may mean "I hate the
very sight of you."  This "compromise" is concerned with the nature of
the conflict in the relationship as much as or more than it is concerned
with the conflict in the plot.  Plots change (so to speak) from scene to
scene or from play to play ie Henry VI.  So the subtext is predicated
upon the essential conflict between the characters which may
theoretically precede the day in which the conflict of the play begins.
For instance, when Hamlet tells Ophelia to go to the nunnery, he is
responding not only to his anger at her in the moment, but also to the
essential problem he has always had with her (the faithfulness or
trustworthiness of women) which precedes the momentary plot of the play.
On the literal level, "Get the to a nunnery" means "Leave my sight."  On
the "relational" level it could have many meanings ie "I am so
disapointed in you," "I wish to kill you," "I beg you to forgive me."
Please don't write to me that the play is just words and that the
characters don't "want" anything.  As an acting teacher, this approach
is not affective in bringing characters to life.

Jane Drake Brody

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Re: Bard and My Baby Go Back 27

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2709  Friday, 30 November 2001

From:           Sam Small <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 16:01:02 -0000
Subject: 12.2696 Bard and My Baby Go Back 27
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2696 Bard and My Baby Go Back 27

I think Shakespeare would have been just as bored by this vanilla sex
rendition of his play as I am.

SAM SMALL

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Re: MND Tops Survey

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2707  Friday, 30 November 2001

From:           Gabriel Egan <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 13:59:33 -0000
Subject: 12.2686 Re: MND Tops Survey
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2686 Re: MND Tops Survey

The Sam Small writing seminar starts up again:

> It is an old screenwriting adage that "if a scene is
> about what the scene is about you are in deep trouble".
> Writers of experience know that sub text is sometimes
> never obvious and that telling an audience clearly what
> you mean at every turn will bore them out of the theatre
> in droves. I am sure Shakespeare applied this tenant to
> the whole of R&J.

If my lunch is my lunch, am I in trouble too? The verb "to be" here
displays the full metaphysical subtlety of the verb "to do" in the
jingle "Only Oxo does what only Oxo can". Let us pass over in silence
the exquisite childishness of "sometimes never" and the applying of
luckless tenants to dirty our hands in those matters which the dogged
realists still insist on calling history:

> But remember, 40 years later - and in complete ignorance of the
> message of R&J - England tore itself apart in a civil war between
> two "families"

Alas, I forgot. Which families, Sam? Luckily, father and son never found
themselves on different sides, I suppose.

Gabriel Egan

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Shakespeare in Hell Metal Band

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2708  Friday, 30 November 2001

From:           Richard Burt <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 17:29:28 -0500
Subject:        Shakespeare in Hell Metal Band

Heavy metal band Shakespeare in Hell wrote me and gave me their website
URL:

http://www.shakespeareinhell.com/

(I am not a metalhead, in case you hadn't noticed. I like the website,
though.)

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Re: R & J on "Gilmore Girls"

The Shakespeare Conference: SHK 12.2706  Friday, 30 November 2001

From:           Todd Pettigrew <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date:           Thursday, 29 Nov 2001 12:22:44 -0800
Subject: 12.2693 R & J on "Gilmore Girls"
Comment:        Re: SHK 12.2693 R & J on "Gilmore Girls"

A Canadian network carries GG as well; Global, I think, on Friday
nights.

Not a young girl, I quite like the show nevertheless.  The dialogue is
snappy and I'm sick of single parent families on TV where the single
parent is the father.

GG is sort of a cynical, small town, apolitical, feminine West Wing.
I'm looking forward to this R&J episode.

t.

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